The Trump Presidency 15

[The Greater Fool]

When I search DuckDuck for Michael Brown, CEO, Hydromatic Tech all the hits are the same nebulous business, claims Brown is some fantastic inventor. If this were a legit business with employees one would expect a web page to come up. It doesn't.

Education: ITT Technical College - HVAC.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Ignoring the hypocrisy of Trump's statement for a moment (after all, the political right has also been known to use boycotts as well)...

Does anyone think this might actually backfire on Trump and Marcus?

After all, not everyone knew about the calls for a boycott of home depot, or its founder's support for Stubby McBonespurs. (Before today I didn't.) But now that Trump has tweeted about it, millions of people now know about the situation. (I know I for one will avoid shopping there in the near future, spending my money at Walmart or Rona, and its all because Trump let me know that one of its major shareholders is benefiting from money that is spent there.)

Why is he labeling then "so called" followers?


People don't shop at Home Depot just for the fun of spending money... they do so because they need something. If instead they shop at WalMart or Rona, the money they were going to spend does not disappear... workers still get hired and paid, profits still get earned. Its just a different set of workers and shareholders that benefit.

In my circles we knew Home Depot supported the GOP and the anti-abortionists.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Darn... Stubby McBonespurs won a court case:

From: https://www.npr.org/2019/07/10/740258653/appeals-court-dismisses-emoluments-lawsuit-against-trump
A constitutional challenge to President Trump's continued ownership of his businesses has been ordered dismissed by a federal appeals court. The case was brought by the attorneys general of Washington, D.C., and Maryland, arguing that Trump had violated the domestic and foreign emoluments emoluments clauses...

The article points out that the judges who made the ruling had been republican appointees.

There is a second court challenge involving the emoluments clause (brought forward by Democratic congress-critters). Hopefully it goes better.

The dismissal was for "no standing" not for "no case".

I wonder if the message was like Mueller's 'it's Congress' job'.

 

[carlitos]

You can't get relected if you're never elected. If Gore had gotten the Presidency in 2000, the chances of Bush being elected in 2004 were statistically nil.

I guess if you're making up an alternative history to the Supreme Court, you can set your own rules. You certainly aren't proving your assertion about this 8-1 popular vote thing, when you are literally ignoring the popular vote for Bush's second term. Not to mention, the last VP before Gore only served a single term, so why would he get 2 terms?

Carter - 1 term
Reagan - 2 terms
Bush - 1 term
Clinton - 2 terms
Gore - ?

 

[JoeMorgue]

I guess if you're making up an alternative history to the Supreme Court, you can set your own rules. You certainly aren't proving your assertion about this 8-1 popular vote thing, when you are literally ignoring the popular vote for Bush's second term. Not to mention, the last VP before Gore only served a single term, so why would he get 2 terms?

Carter - 1 term
Reagan - 2 terms
Bush - 1 term
Clinton - 2 terms
Gore - ?

*Sighs* Fine. Sanity would have a minimum of a 6-3 majority with a fair shot at a 8-1 under my scenario.

 

[Armitage72]

Needs clarifying.

Could you post a link?

I wasn't paying attention. A company called Pentair has a division called Hydromatic, which came up when I searched for Hydromatic Tech.

"Hydromatic offers a wide range of sump, effluent, sewage and utility pumps and accessories for residential use."

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

According to Google Image search, that's Canadian actress Nina Dobrev. She was born in Bulgaria, so exactly Trump's type.

Oh yeah, Vampire Diaries star.

 

[Andy_Ross]

trump tweets

My Administration is taking groundbreaking action to bring new hope to millions of Americans suffering from kidney disease. Today I signed an Executive Order, Advancing American Kidney Health.

 

[carlitos]

*Sighs* Fine. A Sanity would have a minimum of a 6-3 majority with a fair shot at a 8-1 under my scenario.

Terms for SCOTUS would make a lot of sense. I know that Andrew Yang and others are talking about 18 year terms. SCOTUS terms are longer than ever, and now they are nominating younger justices, which will compound the issue. Maybe both parties could agree if it didn't phase in until 15 years from now or something.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Terms for SCOTUS would make a lot of sense. I know that Andrew Yang and others are talking about 18 year terms. SCOTUS terms are longer than ever, and now they are nominating younger justices, which will compound the issue. Maybe both parties could agree if it didn't phase in until 15 years from now or something.

I agree that "Lifetime" appointments create issues.

My vote would be 10 year terms, maximum of one re-confirmation.

 

[Segnosaur]

Terms for SCOTUS would make a lot of sense. I know that Andrew Yang and others are talking about 18 year terms. SCOTUS terms are longer than ever, and now they are nominating younger justices, which will compound the issue. Maybe both parties could agree if it didn't phase in until 15 years from now or something.

Term limits would make sense. (Assuming of course there they are constitutional and wouldn't require some amendment.)

But why would either party agree to them? Even if they didn't kick in for 15 years, Republicans have people like Drunky McRapeface and totally-not-Garland, who are in their 50s and can easily serve for more than 2 decades, and there is a chance they may have a 3rd nomination. And the Democrats, wary of republican dishonesty, would have no reason to trust that the republicans wouldn't resort to further shenanigans in the future.

 

[Hellbound]

I agree that "Lifetime" appointments create issues.

My vote would be 10 year terms, maximum of one re-confirmation.

I'd rather do a longer term and no re-ups. I think the idea was to allow the judges, once affirmed, to vote their conscience and not be beholden to political concerns like re-election/re-confirmation. I can see the sense in that.

 

[JoeMorgue]

I'd rather do a longer term and no re-ups. I think the idea was to allow the judges, once affirmed, to vote their conscience and not be beholden to political concerns like re-election/re-confirmation. I can see the sense in that.

Well yeah that was back when we could trust the tribes not to elect party insider yes-men.

This used to be a good thing because SCOTUS used to be the least partisan of the three branches.

 

[JoeMorgue]

I actually have brainstormed the concept that no political office would have a term limit, but the longer you stay in the higher "standards of support" you would have to meet, but I couldn't think of anything close to a practical way to implement in the real world.

 

[Hellbound]

I actually have brainstormed the concept that no political office would have a term limit, but the longer you stay in the higher "standards of support" you would have to meet, but I couldn't think of anything close to a practical way to implement in the real world.

I dunno, I had the idea a while back of not having any limit to the number of terms [ETA: For any political office], but no one could serve consecutive terms in any office.

Seems that would make for interesting dynamics, and maybe motivate longer-term thinking? Dunno.

 

[JoeMorgue]

I dunno, I had the idea a while back of not having any limit to the number of terms [ETA: For any political office], but no one could serve consecutive terms in any office.

Seems that would make for interesting dynamics, and maybe motivate longer-term thinking? Dunno.

I actually wonder if a "X number of years in government (including lobbying, contracting, and etc) then you're out" is worth considering.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Or hell even just "No consecutive" terms.

You can be Grover Cleveland, you can't be FDR.

 

[Ladewig]

I wasn't paying attention. A company called Pentair has a division called Hydromatic, which came up when I searched for Hydromatic Tech.

"Hydromatic offers a wide range of sump, effluent, sewage and utility pumps and accessories for residential use."

I can’t find Safemate clothes dryers available for sale anywhere.
Am I not looking hard enough?

 

[Tero]

Obamacare unlikely to survive to the end of Trump term
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/obamacare-appeals-court-likely-to-rule-aca-unconstitutional/

If it hits by Jan 2020, Democrats will try to stall and provide coverage for those already in Obamacare thru 2021. But no laws will pass in 2020: McConnell.

 

[Delphic Oracle]

Which may sound impressive, until you consider the total number of openings that needed to be filled.





Lets see... Obama gets 2 solid majorities and appoints 2 supreme court judges over 8 years.



Trump wins the election (despite losing the popular vote, and despite election interference by the Russians) and manages to appoint just as many supreme court judges in less than half the time.



That doesn't exactly seem fair to me. Granted, there will always be some randomness in the process (since you can never predict when a judge will die or retire), but the Turtle definitely messed with the fairness of the system.

I can't confirm right now, but as I understand it, another aspect is the malfeasance centers around the D.C. circuit and Federal Appeals benches. So basically the primary venues for cases involving federal agencies and personnel.