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Moderated Trump announces new concentration camps

Actually, there are going to be tons of trials from mistreatment in ICE custody for years to come.
If I was working in any of these facilities, I'd lawyer up fast and put a whistleblower-package together.

Oh my sweet summer child, the reality is, "Soft on Immigration!" doesn't get you elected, even in the "civilised world" such as Australia or Denmark or Italy.

Make America Mediocre Again

"Why can't America be more like the civilised world?"

"NO, NOT LIKE THAT!"
 
The important thing about children in cages is that you can take it as an opportunity to show everyone how witty you are.

Or something?
 
There is nothing debatable. Regardless of the alleged criminality of their parents, the children are innocent victims. Either the government is locking them up illegally or their parents dragged them across the border illegally and then the government is locking them up illegally.


Whether the parents are or not, the children are not.


I think it would be more constructive if you found that citation I asked for instead of making up spurious stories.
I will only address the last line. Eighty-one pedophiles were arrested recently thirty-one in Atlanta alone for having sex with underage children. The victims were mostly but not entirely here illegally. It's in the newspapers.
 
Oh my sweet summer child, the reality is, "Soft on Immigration!" doesn't get you elected, even in the "civilised world" such as Australia or Denmark or Italy.



"Why can't America be more like the civilised world?"

"NO, NOT LIKE THAT!"

maybe.

but breaking the laws can get you sued, especially if your bosses leave you without the resources to deal with an impossible situation.
Sure, Trump, won't get personally sued over lost or dead children, but local ICE and Center personell will.
 
Oh my sweet summer child, the reality is, "Soft on
"Why can't America be more like the civilised world?"

"NO, NOT LIKE THAT!"

You have reversed the point. My point was that if you wanted to be called "Great", you have to be better than the rest, not the same as the rest, which is your argument for excusing the fact that the US government is keeping children in inhumane conditions.
 
They aren't criminals, they are asylum seekers, and many of them are children. A Civilized society does not put children in prison, even if that's your chosen euphemism for what are clearly concentration camps.

Shame. ******* shame.

When justice returns to the US, there will be a reckoning for this ****.
No, the "asylum seekers" are criminals crossing the border illegally translates into criminality. Their children are victims not of American laws and policies but of their parents or whoever brought them here in the first place.
 
No, just pointing out the whole hypocrisy of this sordid affair.
No hypocrisy in saying on one issue we should emulate certain models seen in other countries while on an entirely different subject matter we maintain the consistent view that this behavior is unacceptable.

Meanwhile, responding to a humanitarian issue with no goal other than trying to make some mythical "other side" feel bad makes one quite a despicable person.
 
No, the "asylum seekers" are criminals crossing the border illegally translates into criminality. Their children are victims not of American laws and policies but of their parents or whoever brought them here in the first place.
Using scare quotes doesn't change reality.

This issue has been refuted numerous times, go back up thread and try to keep up.
 
No, the "asylum seekers" are criminals crossing the border illegally translates into criminality. Their children are victims not of American laws and policies but of their parents or whoever brought them here in the first place.

their parents didn't lock them up.
I'd say they are victims of an intentionally cruel immigration policy.
 
I will only address the last line. Eighty-one pedophiles were arrested recently thirty-one in Atlanta alone for having sex with underage children. The victims were mostly but not entirely here illegally. It's in the newspapers.

The VICTIMS were here illegally. The people who committed the crimes?

Jesus, you are blaming the victims for what the rapists did.

Let's make it clear: rapists are the problem. Not their victims.
 
So what do you suggest be done with these kids? Let them run around outside?

the same as was normal under the previous administrations: let them live with any of their relatives - not just their parents who are ... detained at the moment.
It's an entirely artificial problem, designed to scare families into staying away.
 
the same as was normal under the previous administrations: let them live with any of their relatives - not just their parents who are ... detained at the moment.
It's an entirely artificial problem, designed to scare families into staying away.
How do you know it's their parents they are with? These kids are eventually reunited with their parents. They are initially separated from the people they are with to make sure they are really their parents and not some child sex trafficker.

The kid's situation is entirely the fault of the illegals. It's that simple.
 
The kid's situation is entirely the fault of the illegals. It's that simple.

And there is nothing the Mighty US can do about it? If the parents did something wrong, America has to stand by and let the kids suffer because of it?

you seem to have very little faith in this country.
 
I suspect that if a person believes that the well documented conditions under discussion are safe and sanitary, and if one believes that even the infant children of illegal immigrants are criminals worthy of such treatment, argument is just choir practice. Do it to hone your skills but don't expect hyenas to graze.
 
US Customs and Border Patrol agents at a migrant processing center in Texas allegedly attempted to humiliate a Honduran migrant by making him hold a sign that read, "I like men," according to emails written by an agent who witnessed the incident.

The emails -- obtained by CNN -- were sent to the agent's supervisor and outlined the March 5 episode in which a Honduran man was forced to hold a piece of paper that said, "Me gustan los hombre(s)," which translates to "I like men," while being paraded through a migrant detention center.

The incident is one of many, per the emails, in which the CBP agent allegedly witnessed several colleagues displaying poor behavior and management's failure to act.

Asked about the incident, a CBP official told CNN, "I am forwarding to the Office of Professional Responsibility, the office charged with looking into these allegations."

...

The witnessing agent saw the note, approached an agent responsible for writing it and another agent who was laughing. The witnessing agent told them their behavior was unprofessional, the emails say. Neither agent responded.

Seeing that the Honduran man was upset, the witnessing agent took the note away from him and provided him another without the derogatory phrase on it.

The witnessing agent in the emails names two senior Border Patrol agents and five other agents who also saw the alleged incident occur. The witnessing agent took the note to the senior agent in charge that night but the senior agent took no action, the emails said.

Linky.

Customs and Border Protection officials have been aware for up to three years that a secret Facebook group for current and former Border Patrol agents was posting offensive messages — far longer than previously reported.

Border Patrol leadership knew about photos posted to the group as far back as 2016, when agents reported them, according to a current Homeland Security official. The images — several of which were provided to POLITICO — show agents engaging in conduct that includes simulating sex acts and taking selfies while defecating. A former DHS official said he was aware of the Facebook group during the past year.

Linky.

Sure sounds like AOC is right.
 

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