Moderated Trump announces new concentration camps

[Lurch]

No it's an honest assessment of how ****** America is. Did the Ussr pull together as one in 1989 after it's inhabitants remember it's multicultural identity? Is India a vibrant technological hub of innovation? Did Syria not come together remembering their perspectives? Is the United kingdom a beacon of harmony? So what makes diversity a good thing?

When I see America I see a slowly decaying hollow giant that is past the point of no return, as it becomes more divided and fractured in the years to come.

Is it diversity which is the problem? Or is it instead the *fear* of diversity?

And who is doing the fracturing? The immigrants who commit less crime than the native born and evince a real patriotism? Or the the whites who fear some loss of privelege, some of whom engage in very unpatriotic behavior?

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Because there isn't a problem to be solved.

This is a lie. Or straight up ignorance. Not sure which. Don't really care, either.

The Brown People are not a threat to you. Calm down. White People are still gonna be the majority for a while, you got time.

Shovel that **** in someone else's direction. Your implication of racism is 100% evidence-free.

 

[NWO Sentryman]

Is it diversity which is the problem? Or is it instead the *fear* of diversity?

And who is doing the fracturing? The immigrants who commit less crime than the native born and evince a real patriotism? Or the the whites who fear some loss of privelege, some of whom engage in very unpatriotic behavior?

As I said diversity is good in good times. When things turn bad and fester, well best case scenario is ussr 1989-91. Worst case, see Syria.

Most Mexican immigrants scream about how America is the great satan and how it is inherently stolen land, in a manner reminiscent of the German Slavic tensions in 1914. As for crime rates, if you include the poverty and racism stricken ghettos it is hard to have higher crime rate than that.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

What? Doing exactly what President Obama did doing the smaller immigration crisis in 2014? ICE ran out of room at that time, also.

If by “exactly” you mean “almost entirely not the same,” then yes, Trump is doing exactly what Obama did.

TRUMP 2020
Exacly like Obama!​

 

[Mumbles]

What? Doing exactly what President Obama did doing the smaller immigration crisis in 2014? ICE ran out of room at that time, also.

Yes, because they were overwhelmed by unaccompanied minors that showed up with no known relatives in the US. Very different than purposefully separating children from adults, and subjecting both to inhumane conditions indefinitely - which would be a concentration camp.

(Also, yes, people absolutely did complain - he was known as "the deporter in chief" in part because of this.)

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

I'm angry a few people in three states put a filthy Russian whore who likes to put children in concentration camps in the Whitehouse.

Ditto.

QFT

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Or we could treat them with basic levels of human dignity and respect. Crazy concept I know.

Listen, since I can already sense you salivating at the either/or strawman you're gonna use, we're not talking about the immigration/asylum/refugee process being unpleasant or boring or tedious or whatever.

If this was just a case of long wait times, endless boring waiting rooms that smell of stale coffee and impatience, stuffy and half competent bureaucrats wanting every form filled out again and all the other charming attributes that come along with dealing with the US government and anybody of any political stripe was trying to make some sort of huge human rights deal out of that, my eye roll would be so hard you could use it a cheap energy source.

Stuffing kids in cages, have ******* 4 years old defend themselves in court, and having people literally die in custody from lack of basic amenities is none of that. It's inexcusable.

Well put.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

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Shovel that **** in someone else's direction. Your implication of racism is 100% evidence-free.

And yet you are concerned about our southern border where the 'brown people' are coming in, and you don't seem concerned about any other immigrants. We have quite a few here Asia, not all of them documented. No one is screening people coming across the Pacific.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

As I said diversity is good in good times. When things turn bad and fester, well best case scenario is ussr 1989-91. Worst case, see Syria.

Most Mexican immigrants scream about how America is the great satan and how it is inherently stolen land, in a manner reminiscent of the German Slavic tensions in 1914. As for crime rates, if you include the poverty and racism stricken ghettos it is hard to have higher crime rate than that.

I highlighted utter nonsense.

And as for "in good times", isn't Trump bragging daily about how good these times are?

 

[NWO Sentryman]

I highlighted utter nonsense.

And as for "in good times", isn't Trump bragging daily about how good these times are?

Really? given the screaming of "AmeriKKKA is stolen land!" betrays an irredentism that has no good precedents. See: Austria Hungary and the Ottoman Empire, 1914

Trump says a lot of things, and it's all a house of cards as far as I am concerned. I think him a charlatan and a pompous buffoon, but he's more of a Kaiser Wilhelm figure than Adolf Hitler (and the Kaiser is largely remembered as a disaster in his own right because of the whole WW1 thing as well as his disastrous foreign policy).

 

[I Am The Scum]

This is a lie. Or straight up ignorance. Not sure which. Don't really care, either.

Why is a 25-year-old from across the border of more concern than a 25-year-old who was born and raised in Alabama?

 

[I Am The Scum]

Really?

Yes, really. You said "most." Either you made that up, or you were choosing your words poorly. In either case, you're making an ass out of yourself. Be more careful, and that won't happen so easily.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Really? given the screaming of "AmeriKKKA is stolen land!" betrays an irredentism that has no good precedents. See: Austria Hungary and the Ottoman Empire, 1914

You repeated it again without a spec of evidence that this is some widespread call.

Trump says a lot of things, and it's all a house of cards as far as I am concerned. I think him a charlatan and a pompous buffoon, but he's more of a Kaiser Wilhelm figure than Adolf Hitler (and the Kaiser is largely remembered as a disaster in his own right because of the whole WW1 thing as well as his disastrous foreign policy).

Bottom line, unemployment is low. More unskilled workers is a good thing.

 

[NWO Sentryman]

You repeated it again without a spec of evidence that this is some widespread call.

Bottom line, unemployment is low. More unskilled workers is a good thing.

Because history has shown what happens when you have two or more national groups competing for the same ground. It Does Not End Well, whether it is the Carpathian region, the Caucasus or Kashmir. And there is a strong irredentist sentiment in Mexico, not least with the "nobody is illegal on stolen land" being a common talking point. Depending on how badly AMLO does, there could be an Ultranationalist that stirs **** up even more in 2024. With Ultranationalism on the upswing, who knows?

Except those workers are from a neighbouring nation which has a lot of historical tensions.

 

[I Am The Scum]

We're migrating from Doomsday Prepper to Race War real fast.

I, for one, am siding with the Vietnamese.

 

[NWO Sentryman]

We're migrating from Doomsday Prepper to Race War real fast.

I, for one, am siding with the Vietnamese.

Because, as we all know, in societies with growing social and ethnic polarisation, Everyone will somehow Pull Together as one. And America is exceptional enough to avoid the same fate as the USSR, Brazil and India (The latter of whom saw Racist Ultranationalists get elected to office in the last year).

Growing Inequalities? Check.
Growing Polarisation and atomisation? Check.
Growing Distrust? Check.
Declining faith in Government/State? Check. ("AmeriKKKA has always been ******" vs. "America has gone to ******")

That does not have a Good Ending.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

America has no concentration camps in the true sense of the word. We have temporary internment camps. These camps would not exist if the illegals didn't break our laws by coming here illegally. COmpared to what would happen to say in Red China if a mass of illegals crossed their borders with the same motivation to steal their jobs we are very kind.

Illegals bring crime and disease into America and we have to do something to contain it.

Wow, while reading that I felt a need to twirl my moustache!

 

[dudalb]

This is a lie. Or straight up ignorance. Not sure which. Don't really care, either.


Shovel that **** in someone else's direction. Your implication of racism is 100% evidence-free.

I would bet a month's pay that if all the illegal immigrants were White Canadians, there would be no problem.

 

[dudalb]

Yes, really. You said "most." Either you made that up, or you were choosing your words poorly. In either case, you're making an ass out of yourself. Be more careful, and that won't happen so easily.

Amazing how when somebody tries to be a provocative edgelord, they end up making a jackass of themselves, isn't it?

 

[Regnad Kcin]

"Liberals always lie".

And they also always project their lying onto others (characteristic of most liars).

I lol’d.