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A Celebrity's Opinion. Who Cares?

Well Folau is in the news again, being slammed by one of his former team mates for greed.

If you scroll down to the bottom of the article, you will see him giving his take on the ins and outs of homosexuality - taking over the World it seems. He conflates homosexuality with transgender in his sweeping condemnation.

A public speaker this guy is not. He can hardly string two words together in a coherent way. Even so, some who admire him, hang on his words as inspirational it would seem. Sure beats me.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06...illion-dollars-for-rugby-legal-fight/11233698
 
Celebrityism

mgidm86 said:
I didn't mean that we should forcefully end it. I just wonder what it would take for enough people to finally "get it" and move away from it. It's probably impossible.

But then some people like myself have no interest in celebrities. I don't think they or anyone else are worthy of being idolized. So it is possible for people to think the whole thing is stupid, just not enough people do. There are too many stupid people.

People made Paris Hilton a celebrity, so I don't see that any progress can be made anytime soon. Every time a Rosie O'Donnell or a Scott Baio, Madonna, DeNiro, Samuel L open their mouth about social or political issues you just know they're going to say something stupid. It should be enough to convince people but it isn't.

The fact that people can sit through ten minutes of commercials that insult their intelligence just so they can watch twenty minutes of "Third Rock" says it all to me.
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Some background first. I don’t fawn over celebrities but I can’t help but take interest when a story erupts involving one. I grew up with FM radio stations who played music and rarely mentioned the artist, much less the name of the song. I always considered the message over the messenger and was fine with that.

Once upon a time there were female models (of clothing and such). Lots of attractive young females aspired to be one. Soon there were so many that the term “supermodel” was created.

I remember cringing when during one of Farrah Abraham’s run-ins with the law she identified herself as a “celebrity”. This woman was placed on TV only because she got knocked up while a teenager.

So my question is, will we someday have to create the term “supercelebrity” to distinguish the talent from the trash or has it been done already?
 
Thor 2 said:
Well Folau is in the news again, being slammed by one of his former team mates for greed.
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And rightly so - excellent riposte to him going begging.

Also, I see Folau has $5M+ in investment property, so it's pretty cynical of him to beg money for lawyers.

At least only christians will donate.
 
He is now trying to raise $2 million to help pay for his legal action. The shocking thing is that he already has raised $592,525 from 7728 people in 3 days.

Edit. This is via a gofundme page.
 
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The Atheist said:
And rightly so - excellent riposte to him going begging.

Also, I see Folau has $5M+ in investment property, so it's pretty cynical of him to beg money for lawyers.

At least only christians will donate.
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Well that cuts the numbers down I suppose. I imagine his stance may strike a cord with some non theistic homophobes however.
 
rjh01 said:
He is now trying to raise $2 million to help pay for his legal action. The shocking thing is that he already has raised $592,525 from 7728 people in 3 days.

Edit. This is via a gofundme page.
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Yes that is disturbing. Disturbing that many seem to align themselves with his stance and donate.
 
Thor 2 said:
I wonder why people give a damn what these guys views are on these topics. It annoys the crap out of me that it gets reported. Does being a rugby player or a boxer give a guy some special insight into these issues? These uninformed and bigoted views are not news.:mad:
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It is more Folau's subsequent dismissal from the Wallabies and his GoFundMe campaign that has kept him in the news.

When your job puts you in the public eye, you have a duty to avoid making public comments that might reflect badly on your employer.
 
lionking said:
Israel should have a heap of money as he would be living a modest, devout Christian lifestyle chock full of denial and sacrifice..........
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Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.

Matthew 19:24
 
The Atheist said:
Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.

Matthew 19:24
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At which the rich people built themselves a giant needle with a huge eye that camels could easily walk through.

What's the point of being rich if you can't use it for your own advantage?
 
quadraginta said:
At which the rich people built themselves a giant needle with a huge eye that camels could easily walk through.
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Arguing against the son of god's own metaphor only works if you have a "Saint" in front of your name.

quadraginta said:
What's the point of being rich if you can't use it for your own advantage?
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Nothing wrong with being rich, but being rich and christian is hypocrisy. I'd even go as far as saying it's blasphemous, because you can only have both if you repudiate the verbal statement of your actual god, after whom the entire religion is named.

Despite outward appearances, even the pope knows this.
 
And so it goes on, the Australian Christian Lobby have put their hands in their pockets for poor Folau:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06...-could-spark-changes-to-crowdfunding/11242558

Israel Folau has received a $100,000 donation from the Australian Christian Lobby (ACL) in response to GoFundMe's decision to cancel his crowdfunding campaign.

The ACL said it hoped to amplify the voice of what they call "quiet Australians" by helping Folau.
"There is an outpouring of support for Israel Folau from the Australian community, who see Israel's case as their case," ACL managing director, Martyn Iles said.
"They feel the pinch of political correctness and the erosion of their basic freedoms."
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Distressing that. The Christians are losing their "basic freedoms" to spew their hate filled message to the World.
 
psionl0 said:
It is more Folau's subsequent dismissal from the Wallabies and his GoFundMe campaign that has kept him in the news.

When your job puts you in the public eye, you have a duty to avoid making public comments that might reflect badly on your employer.
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Missed the point again psion.

Folau is "in the news" because he plays rugby well, and has chosen to share his hate filled, bigoted, religiously inspired views with us. There are some who think his views are an inspiration because .... well .... he can kick a football. Our Prime Minister is one of the aforementioned it would seem.

There would be some more accepting and progressive Christians, who don't agree with Folau and good for them. There may be others however, who were on the path to acceptance, but now find Folau's words compelling because ... well .... he can kick a football. That's the issue.
 
Thor 2 said:
Missed the point again psion.
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Not at all.

A few years ago, former tennis great Margaret Court also publicly expressed similar views and made news briefly because of it. The difference is that she is retired from tennis (she is now a pastor) and didn't have a tennis association to go to war over. So the controversy was quickly over. If her tennis career in the 1960s hadn't been as stellar as it was, it is doubtful that she would have rated more than a byline in the press.
 
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