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The Trump Presidency 14

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Bashing Trump is a favorite sport. And Nixon thought he was getting kicked around! People are even getting on Trump over the suit he wore at the UK official state dinner with the Queen. That it looked "two sizes too small." That he "bought it off the rack and then was too cheap to have it properly tailored." My favorite: "None of his family or staff would tell him he looked ridiculous because they all secretly despise him." ;)

He did look clownish, I have to admit.


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To be fair it's hard to look relaxed and comfortable in formal clothes you aren't used to wearing.
Charlie just about lives in tails and a formal waistcoat.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
So, trump threatens the Iranians and then backs down and now he has done the same over ICE raids.

I see a pattern here.
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But I don't want to see him follow through on a bad idea just to prove he's a man of action. Doing the right thing for the wrong reason is OK with me sometimes.

It's all about the optics, but the fact that he's sensitive to the optics is illuminating to me. I mean, shouldn't he revel in the image of ICE agents rounding people up? It would play quite well with some of his supporters. But others will just see sad poor people, little kids and immigration cops with guns.
 
I don't think it's 'optics' I think he is a bully who talks big but ***** his pants when it comes to the crunch.

He know's nothing of the crunch.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
To be fair it's hard to look relaxed and comfortable in formal clothes you aren't used to wearing.
Charlie just about lives in tails and a formal waistcoat.
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Donnie has attended enough formal events in his life to be used to the coat and tails. But I'm sure he feels more comfortable, if even looking more ridiculous, in his golf shorts.
 
newyorkguy said:
Bashing Trump is a favorite sport. And Nixon thought he was getting kicked around! People are even getting on Trump over the suit he wore at the UK official state dinner with the Queen. That it looked "two sizes too small." That he "bought it off the rack and then was too cheap to have it properly tailored." My favorite: "None of his family or staff would tell him he looked ridiculous because they all secretly despise him." ;)

He did look clownish, I have to admit.


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Captain_Swoop said:
To be fair it's hard to look relaxed and comfortable in formal clothes you aren't used to wearing.
Charlie just about lives in tails and a formal waistcoat.
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And to be even more fair, only Melania in that picture doesn't look a bit foolish.
Trump is probably pissed that he doesn't have a sash of office, like all the Brits.

ETA: Or a medal! Even Camilla has a sash and a medal!
 
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Norman Alexander said:
Easy solution for the Oregon Dems. Since these senators are not showing up for work, give them a time limit to do so. If they break the time limit then they have resigned from the position. They are out of the legislature, full stop. So their seats become "casual vacancies" that will need to be refilled by elections. If the recalcitrants then try to stand again, the opposition cry will be "You were elected once but failed to turn up for work and do your job. Why would we vote your lazy asses back in again?"

This is a really simple principle that every business would approve. If you employ and pay someone, and then they refuse to turn up at the office and actually work, you fire them and replace them promptly. And don't employ them again if they re-apply. The business-friendly GOP would surely agree. ;)
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There are surely rules against changing or what one needs to change the quorum rules.

I was wondering what they can do without a quorum. If they could take a whole bunch of actions the GOP legislators would need to return to stop them, that could work.

I know they can't do legislative business, but how about something else like vandalism of GOP offices? Not destructive so much as something to get really bad publicity even after the legislators return?
 
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Trebuchet said:
That was the stated reason, but not the real reason, which was getting even for 1974. Those clowns were going to impeach him for something regardless.
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While I agree somewhat with that, like Trump, Clinton gave them grounds. He was not blameless...just like Trump is not.

The economy was doing great at the time and, according to Trump, that should have made impeaching Clinton impossible!
 
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Stacyhs said:
While I agree somewhat with that, like Trump, Clinton gave them grounds. He was not blameless...just like Trump is not.

The economy was doing great at the time and, according to Trump, that should have made impeaching Clinton impossible!
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Well, he wasn't blameless in that he was a sleazy con-artist developer (excuse me for repeating myself). The problem was, he was a really good sleazy con-artist and they couldn't get anything to stick. Along they way they realized they could get him on some unrelated stuff they discovered, but it wasn't illegal. Then he lied about it.

Because while he is a serial adulterer, he's not a really good serial adulterer.

ETA: By the way, investigating one set of things and running across some others that may or may not have been illegal and then the President lying about it...eh...sound familiar, anyone?
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
6.1) Take call from Putin advising not to start a war.

6.2) Pretend you are responding to the red line crossed, when you cancel the response, people will forget you didn't respond.
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That's what sent Bolton and Pompeo to the Middle East. They needed a little kerfuffle to keep Grimm and Grimmer happy, and thought Venezuela would be perfect. When the people of Venezuela didn't rise up as one and start chanting We Want Trump, Bolton convinced them he'd have that later. But then Vladi phoned and said he might want to rethink that.

Damn! Can't attack Korea, he's my new BFF. Can't attack China, they'd blow up a carrier or two! Oh, well, I guess it's back to Iran!

The possibility that he did the same thing on Iran is very plausible. Russia has much more direct interest in the area.
 
newyorkguy said:
Trump is so good at losing. No one else has come close. Sounds like he's done it again; come up with a losing formula. From Time Magazine:


Realistically he can't. If he "reaches out to swing voters" he'll lose some of the knuckle draggers in his base. It'd probably be a wash.
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I'm sure the "I Don't Support Trump But Maybe We Should Respect His Supporters" bunch of strategic apologists will be along to explain to us how this is different from many of us here writing off the deplorables as a lost cause.

He's saying that he's going to not work to fulfill the needs/wishes of the swing voter but stick with his tried and true.

(Where's Emily's Cat when you need her?)
 
Foolmewunz said:
That's what sent Bolton and Pompeo to the Middle East. They needed a little kerfuffle to keep Grimm and Grimmer happy, and thought Venezuela would be perfect. When the people of Venezuela didn't rise up as one and start chanting We Want Trump, Bolton convinced them he'd have that later. But then Vladi phoned and said he might want to rethink that.

Damn! Can't attack Korea, he's my new BFF. Can't attack China, they'd blow up a carrier or two! Oh, well, I guess it's back to Iran!

The possibility that he did the same thing on Iran is very plausible. Russia has much more direct interest in the area.
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It would not surprise me this has to do with the 2020 election. They're poking around with a stick to see what they can drum up. Test the waters.
 
I agree. Trump thinks a war will gather support for his re-election. Fortunately, possible war with Iran does not have an appeal to most Americans and I think his staff has told him so.
 
In the Time magazine interview, President Trump predicts that a progressive will win the Democratic nomination.

Am I missing something? I thought all the candidates are self-described progressives.
 
Ladewig said:
In the Time magazine interview, President Trump predicts that a progressive will win the Democratic nomination.

Am I missing something? I thought all the candidates are self-described progressives.
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Be assured: Trump would not know a "progressive" candidate from either side of politics if they jumped up and bit him on his pasty white ass.
 
newyorkguy said:
Sounds like he's done it again; come up with a losing formula...If he "reaches out to swing voters" he'll lose some of the knuckle draggers in his base. It'd probably be a wash.
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Despite all his bluster, riding the USFL football league into the ground, crashing the shuttle, losing it all in AC, that has to have had some effect, even on someone as pathological as Donnieboy. I think Trump and his staffers are beginning to catch the whiff of defeat in the air. Donnie lost the popular election in 2016 by near 3 million votes. He won the electoral college only because he carried Florida and Pennsylvania. The 2020 election is a long way off, but early polling shows Trump losing both states. A lot of people in the middle have recognized Donnie for what he is: a moron.

I imagine the conventional wisdom would be to tone it down and reach out to moderates. But Trump's history is, he never listens he just doubles down. Please let this nightmare be over in November 2020. Fingers crossed in New York!
 
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