Mueller Investigation pt 6

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They only thing crazier than Trump is those who continue to support him after the last 2.5 years. I can understand those who first fell for his lies but not those who continue to believe them.
 
wareyin said:
Confirmation bias certainly exists, and everyone is subject to it. But is there really a liberal information bubble? I know that some on the far, far right think CNN, NBC, ABC, and the like are promoting liberal ideology, but are they really?
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Only in false equivalence world. Some of those alternative right wingers have a vague notion they are drinking koolaid so if the left is too then it's not lies, it's just a slanted POV.
 
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BobTheCoward said:
Every media source reporting on the report is engaging in some level of information gatekeeping. How do you determine which ones are doing it right or wrong?
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I just told you: Rather than rely on the media sources reporting on the report, simply read the report itself.

Is that really difficult to understand?
 
BobTheCoward said:
I never asked who should be relied on. Your post doesn't answer my question.
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I didn't answer who should be relied on. I simply said read the report.

BobTheCoward said:
Every media source reporting on the report is engaging in some level of information gatekeeping. How do you determine which ones are doing it right or wrong?
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Why you insist on phrasing your question as if you have to rely on third party sources, when the redacted report itself is available for reading is a mystery to me.
 
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Cabbage said:
I didn't answer who should be relied on. I simply said read the report.



Why you insist on phrasing your question as if you have to rely on third party sources, when the redacted report itself is available for reading is a mystery to me.
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They are unrelated concepts. Nothing about assessing the quality of group X says you should engage with group X. I listen to basketball podcasts and do not watch basketball.
 
BobTheCoward said:
They are unrelated concepts. Nothing about assessing the quality of group X says you should engage with group X. I listen to basketball podcasts and do not watch basketball.
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See, right there's your problem: They are related concepts. Let's go with your analogy and put it this way:

Say you listen to basketball podcasts and you hear conflicting reports: Some say the Golden State Warriors won the NBA Finals, some say it was instead the Toronto Raptors. Gosh, how could you ever possibly tell who is telling the truth???? Here's a novel idea: Watch the final basketball series yourself! Cut out the middle man; be your own witness!

Similarly, rather than rely on third party accounts of precisely what is in the Mueller report, you can read the redacted report yourself! That way, you can go back to the third party reports and know first hand who is giving an accurate portrayal and who is engaging in a misinformation campaign.

You're Welcome!!!
 
Cabbage said:
See, right there's your problem: They are related concepts. Let's go with your analogy and put it this way:

Say you listen to basketball podcasts and you hear conflicting reports: Some say the Golden State Warriors won the NBA Finals, some say it was instead the Toronto Raptors. Gosh, how could you ever possibly tell who is telling the truth???? Here's a novel idea: Watch the final basketball series yourself! Cut out the middle man; be your own witness!

Similarly, rather than rely on third party accounts of precisely what is in the Mueller report, you can read the redacted report yourself! That way, you can go back to the third party reports and know first hand who is giving an accurate portrayal and who is engaging in a misinformation campaign.

You're Welcome!!!
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I'm not curious who won the game. I'm curious how to determine which news source does a better job of reporting the game independent of any interest in the game.


ETA: more accurately, I'm curious how to determine who does a better job. Everyone will have to determine what facts to include. What facts I would want included says very little about if they did it correctly or not.
 
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BobTheCoward said:
I'm not curious who won the game. I'm curious how to determine which news source does a better job of reporting the game independent of any interest in the game.


ETA: more accurately, I'm curious how to determine who does a better job. Everyone will have to determine what facts to include. What facts I would want included says very little about if they did it correctly or not.
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I didn't say you were curious who won the game. Finding that out is simply a byproduct of watching the game, specifically to determine "which news source does a better job of reporting the game"--that is the point of watching the game.
 
Cabbage said:
I didn't say you were curious who won the game. Finding that out is simply a byproduct of watching the game, specifically to determine "which news source does a better job of reporting the game"--that is the point of watching the game.
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But watching the game and then listening to reporting of the game doesn't actually determine if they did a good job reporting it.

How do I know from watching a game what are the broadly relevant points that should be covered by a group reporting on the game? How do I assess that information?
 
BobTheCoward said:
But watching the game and then listening to reporting of the game doesn't actually determine if they did a good job reporting it.
How do I know from watching a game what are the broadly relevant points that should be covered by a group reporting on the game? How do I assess that information?
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Uh...yes it does. It allows you to directly compare the map with the actual territory.
 
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