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The Trump Presidency 14

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The Atheist said:
Sheesh, you need to ask?

It's the thing evangelicals are the most zealous about.
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Hypocrisy-on-steroid-Evangelicals don't give a rip when one of their perceived own gets or pays for an abortion. They didn't even care when women were forced to have abortions in Saipan sweat shops Tom Delay and other GOP legislators supported.
 
JoeMorgue said:
And this is what I mentioned earlier (either in this thread or one of the tangential ones about Trump.)

The one thing, the one thing Trump gets about America in that shriveled, deformed, and misplaced third testicle that passes for his brain is that there was an unspoken, untalked about, desire among a lot of Americans to have someone, anyone, just talk to them in some language that wasn't political doublespeak, focus grouped B.S. There was a chunk of American essentially someone, anyone "Lie to me, insult me, just don't be a pussy. Don't talk the thing you said the second it polls poorly with a focus group. Be wrong, but be sure of yourself."

It's how Trump could stand in front of a crowd in Iowa, call them idiots, and win the state in a landslide while Hillary could stand up, lay a perfectly well thought out plan to get West Virginia off of coal as it's sole major industry, and someone do worst in West Virginia then Trump did with Mexicans after calling them rapists and killers.

Several political commentators have tried to make sense out of how it is possible for someone who provably and objectively lies with the consistency, frequency, and vigor that Trump does is so often heralded as his supporters as "being honest" or "genuine" or "keeping it real."

The best explanation for this is that "being honest" and all those other ways of phrasing it are actually trying to say I think is what many of them are trying to say is something slightly but importantly different.

Listen to any mainstream politician talk. Do you ever within a rounding error hear a politician speak in a public setting that wasn't the most inhuman, inauthentic, sound-bite ready, pre-prepared statement ever? A politician can't say hello to a baby without you just hearing the dozen of focus groups it was run through, the edges sanded off by multiple speech writers, the tone and context sifted through again and again.

And when they are done and finally speaking it sounds good, it sounds right, it sounds correct, it sounds beautiful, hell it even sounds honest for certain meanings of honest. What it doesn't sound like is authentic. Human. Off-the-cuff. Unprepared. Unfiltered.

When you work that hard to make sure you saying something the "right way" it never feel natural.

And I do think on some level people have been desperate for this authenticity. Politicians, even the ones we like, have felt so fake and phony for so long that when someone came along with LITERALLY NO FILTER people did gravitate to him.

We can bemoan it all we want but Trump connected with people on some level we didn't see coming and if we act like trying to understand that is just too good to dirty our souls with, we run a very, very good chance of losing again.
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Humans are a poorly evolved mammalian species. We can do a couple of nifty tricks, but throw us an appeal to our worst instincts, and 40% or more will bite.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Yeah she did. And then immediately started groveling and apologizing for it. Same thing with the coal comment.

That's the difference.

With Democrats it's:

Democrats "You're stupid."
Response: "What did you say?!"
Democrats: "No wait... I misspoke. What I mean to say was...."

With Trump it's:

Trump: "You're an idiot."
Response: "What did you say?!"
Trump: "I said you're a goddamn idiot. What did I effing stutter? You're an idiot and probably a rapist too."

Now I'm not defending Trump speak, but it, or part of it or something it represents, is connecting with people on some level.
A sure of himself ******* is connecting with people in a way that "Say one thing, then immediately walk it back when a person sitting in a diner in Ohio says they don't like it" nice person is.
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Which is what scares the hell out of me and only serves to reinforce my belief that a large portion of the American electorate are blithering idiots.
 
Crossbow said:
Well said indeed.

For some weird reason, Democrats often get embarrassed about the power that they have, while Republicans love to exploit the power that they have.

As a result, for that segment of the electorate who really do want their political leaders to bravely own and wield these powers, then these people are naturally drawn guys like Trump. The fact-of-the-matter is that there is almost always going to be a significant part of the electorate who really do love the 'take charge and kick ass' types, even when the 'take charge and kick ass types' are flushing the entire nation down the toilet.
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Another name for "'take charge and kick ass' types" is 'bullies'.
 
a_unique_person said:
This is logically what would result from the there being no agreement. America tears up an agreement, puts massive new sanctions on Iran, then demands they have to make a new agreement. Something not making sense there.
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It's even dumber than that. Under the agreement, Iran is allowed a limited amount of nuclear work for power production, but have to sell off anything above a limited stockpile of Uranium to other countries.

The US sanctions mean that they can't sell off the excess. So they either take a hit to power production, or ignore the limits of the agreement that Dolt 45 tore up. Naturally, they've chosen the latter.
 
Trump Tweets

@FoxNews Polls are always bad for me. They were against Crooked Hillary also. Something weird going on at Fox. Our polls show us leading in all 17 Swing States. For the record, I didn’t spend 30 hours with @abcnews, but rather a tiny fraction of that. More Fake News @BretBaier
 
Notice he tagged the Australian ABC News, not the ABC news he did the interview with!
 
Stacyhs said:
Another name for "'take charge and kick ass' types" is 'bullies'.
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More importantly, the idiot doesn't actually "take charge and kick ass". He's much more the "Get bored, watch FOX" type. Again, he can't negotiate for things that people are *trying* to give him, he can't see anything through congress, his security briefings have to be delivered via a 5 minute show by the Muppets, and his executive orders that aren't just outright white supremacist are just whatever someone told him to do - and half of those are from that white nationalist toad Steve Miller.

And everyone outside of the FOX News-Breitbart-Stormfront industry knows it.
 
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Stacyhs said:
Which is what scares the hell out of me and only serves to reinforce my belief that a large portion of the American electorate are blithering idiots.
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About 50% of all Americans are below average intelligence.
 
I'd like to remind everybody that we have a president that unironically hugs the American flag as a sign of patriotism. We have a child as a President. Lord help us all...
 
Stacyhs said:
I don't even wait. And when you're a star, flags let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the stars and stripes. You can do anything."
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I'm waiting for the Trump scene where he does his best magic Mike routine and makes sweet love to the flag. Can't get much more patriotic than that amirite??
 
Juniversal said:
Sorry.. We have a selfish, ego-maniacal, compassionless, proto-fascist as President. Better?? :roll:
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Much better. Calling Trump a child insults children. :D

Juniversal said:
I'm waiting for the Trump scene where he does his best magic Mike routine and makes sweet love to the flag. Can't get much more patriotic than that amirite??
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You are! If I were that flag, I'd get tested for STDs.
 
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