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National Emergency

Shadowdweller said:
No, that's research by a very well respected non-partisan think tank, kid. As opposed to your completely unsubstantiated word - which would be worth exactly nothing even if it weren't specifically you saying it. Since you seemed to have missed it, unauthorized immigration from nearly ALL parts of the world is down. And according to pew, resulting from decreased arrivals NOT deportation. Here's politifact on the pew research claim.

But do carry on with your inane, illiterate flailings.
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My thread stalker appears again. Read the date published, then get back to me. Then I'll explain again why it still doesn't support Norman Alexander's idiotic claim.
 
Shadowdweller said:
And according to pew, resulting from decreased arrivals NOT deportation.
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Here's what pew has to say on the topic.

"At the same time, increased enforcement in the U.S. has led to an increase in the number of Mexican immigrants who have been deported from the U.S. since 2005"

This place is flat out pathetic.
 
Baylor said:
"At the same time, increased enforcement in the U.S. has led to an increase in the number of Mexican immigrants who have been deported from the U.S. since 2005"
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Literally the second sentence of the piece, kid:

Pew Research Center said:
The number of unauthorized immigrants living in the United States was lower in 2016 than at any time since 2004. This decline is due mainly to a large drop in the number of new unauthorized immigrants, especially Mexicans, coming into the country.
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Or alternately:
Pew Research Center said:
The number of unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. fell to its lowest level in more than a decade, according to new Pew Research Center estimates based on 2016 government data. The decline is due almost entirely to a sharp decrease in the number of Mexicans entering the country without authorization.
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Trump Tweets

People have been saying for years that we should talk to Mexico. The problem is that Mexico is an “abuser” of the United States, taking but never giving. It has been this way for decades. Either they stop the invasion of our Country by Drug Dealers, Cartels, Human Traffickers....

....Coyotes and Illegal Immigrants, which they can do very easily, or our many companies and jobs that have been foolishly allowed to move South of the Border, will be brought back into the United States through taxation (Tariffs). America has had enough!

The Wall is under construction and moving along quickly, despite all of the Radical Liberal Democrat lawsuits. What are they thinking as our Country is invaded by so many people (illegals) and things (Drugs) that we do not want. Make America Great Again!
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

People have been saying for years that we should talk to Mexico. The problem is that Mexico is an “abuser” of the United States, taking but never giving. It has been this way for decades. Either they stop the invasion of our Country by Drug Dealers, Cartels, Human Traffickers....

....Coyotes and Illegal Immigrants, which they can do very easily, or our many companies and jobs that have been foolishly allowed to move South of the Border, will be brought back into the United States through taxation (Tariffs). America has had enough!
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He still thinks tariffs are paid by producers at the supply end.

Is this something that his staffers are just literally afraid to gently correct him about?
 
Stopping drugs and human trafficking is very easy for a country with a small fraction of our resources. This explains the complete lack of flow of drugs and human trafficking elsewhere in the world. It’s so easy, just do it.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

People have been saying for years that we should talk to Mexico. The problem is that Mexico is an “abuser” of the United States, taking but never giving. It has been this way for decades. Either they stop the invasion of our Country by Drug Dealers, Cartels, Human Traffickers....

....Coyotes and Illegal Immigrants, which they can do very easily, or our many companies and jobs that have been foolishly allowed to move South of the Border, will be brought back into the United States through taxation (Tariffs). America has had enough!

The Wall is under construction and moving along quickly, despite all of the Radical Liberal Democrat lawsuits. What are they thinking as our Country is invaded by so many people (illegals) and things (Drugs) that we do not want. Make America Great Again!
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Why is it that so many things Trump claims are "easy" to fix or take care of are things that are, in reality, very difficult and complex? For example, he claimed fixing healthcare, reducing gas costs, dealing with China and Russia, building the wall and getting Mexico to pay for it, getting rid of debt, drugs, empty factories, and making trade deals would be "very easy".
 
Checkmite said:
He still thinks tariffs are paid by producers at the supply end.

Is this something that his staffers are just literally afraid to gently correct him about?
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He's been told multiple times by his advisers whom he ignored because, after all, Trump knows more than they do and more than anyone in the entire world about everything.
 
trump tweets

Just had a big victory in Federal Court over the Democrats in the House on the desperately needed Border Wall. A big step in the right direction. Wall is under construction!
 
Foolmewunz said:
Anybody have a clue on this? Did I miss a news item?
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This:

A federal judge on Monday rejected an attempt by the Democrat-led House to bar President Donald Trump from spending $6.1 billion in unappropriated funds to build a border wall.

In a 24-page opinion, D.C.-based District Court Judge Trevor McFadden said that the court lacked authority to resolve a funding dispute between the executive and legislative branches.

“While the Constitution bestows upon members of the House many powers, it does not grant them standing to hale the executive branch into court claiming a dilution of Congress’s legislative authority,” McFadden wrote.

The ruling deals a momentary victory to Trump. A separate Oakland-based federal judge in late May issued a preliminary injunction that blocked the transfer of roughly $1 billion in Defense Department counter-drug funding to cover expansions and enhancement of border barriers.
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In the ruling Monday, McFadden — a Trump nominee confirmed by the Senate in 2017 — said in the opinion that the legislative branch can use the appropriations process to respond to executive actions without assistance from the courts.

“Congress has several political arrows in its quiver to counter perceived threats to its sphere of power,” he wrote. “These tools show that this lawsuit is not a last resort for the House.”
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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/03/judge-trump-border-wall-emergency-1352445

It sounds to me that Trump is crowing about something that isn't necessarily going to be such a "big victory' for him.
 
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Craig4 said:
I got a texted "Top Stories" this afternoon on the way home from work that said Trump was going to make a major border announcement this afternoon. I didn't see anything when I got home. Anyone know what the stupid bitch announced?
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His handlers probably distracted him with chocolate and shiny objects.
 
Stacyhs said:
This:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/03/judge-trump-border-wall-emergency-1352445

It sounds to me that Trump is crowing about something that isn't necessarily going to be such a "big victory' for him.
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Well that's stupid. Who is supposed to settle a dispute between POTUS and Congress if not the Judicial Branch?

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Where else does one branch of federal government get to dispute constitutional authority with another than in a federal court, Mr Judge??
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Yeah, what Norman said.
 
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You think the judge would express the truth in his ruling? That he is loyal to Trump and that's why he rolled over for the white house?
 
Then there is the new emergency that allows Trump to ignore congress and give all our weapons technology to the Saudi's.

"The production arrangement is part of a larger $8.1 billion arms package for Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Jordan announced two weeks ago. The Trump administration pressed ahead with the sale without congressional approval, declaring an "emergency" based on what it said was a heightened threat from Iran."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/under-trump-arms-deal-high-tech-u-s-bombs-be-n1015346

All the greatest leaders rule by bypassing the other branches of government and simply saying anything is an emergency after all.
 
ponderingturtle said:
All the greatest leaders rule by bypassing the other branches of government and simply saying anything is an emergency after all.
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I don't think Lindsey Graham is too happy about this. But it's probably not enough to provoke open criticism of Trump.

It's one thing to defy House Dems. Rah rah. But his defying the Republican Senate is going to bug some GOP senators.
 
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