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Mueller Investigation pt 6

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jeremyp said:
corrupt intent. The adjective is important because it is the corruptness that makes it illegal.
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But trying to block an investigation that might reveal your own potential crimes is pretty much by definition corrupt. How else would you see it?
 
Stacyhs said:
Never underestimate the power of willful blindness.
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Indeed, some people can stare right at something, and not see it.

Others can stare right at something, and see something else.


Fortunately for all of us, this particular thing will be the subject of hearings, and questions, and maybe even trials. All of that discussion and testimony ought to help all of us who might need to clean our eyeglasses in order to see more clearly.
 
Bob001 said:
But trying to block an investigation that might reveal your own potential crimes is pretty much by definition corrupt. How else would you see it?
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In the imaginary GOP world, Trump isn't guilty of obstructing the investigation into Russian meddling in the election because he believed it was legit to shut down because Trump believed he was innocent. :rolleyes:

As if there was a separate investigation of Russian interference ... which of course should have been an investigation into Obama's dereliction of duty ... and the spying on Trump ... and wanting to take away from the best POTUS the world has ever seen ... because Democrats want a coup...

Whoops! Sorry got carried away there. It hard to know where to stop when exonerating Dear Leader.

Pretzel twisting.
 
Mmm. With mildly convenient timing for this thread...

Russia's social media campaign was far larger, and vastly more effective, than previously reported

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But the most popular site was TEN_GOP, which claimed to be the account of the Tennessee Republican Party. The account was established in 2015 and appears to have had almost entirely original content. It accumulated 150,000 followers and snagged over 6 million retweets from genuine Twitter accounts. That site specialized not only in regular messages of racism and Islamophobia but in … attacking anyone who believed that Russia was trying to sway the election. Not only did some of the messages spread by that account get wide support at the time, those messages—including claiming that President Obama “planted operatives all over the government to leak sensitive information”—are still major talking points expressed by the Republican Party, including Trump.
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"Russia didn't help Trump, and if it did, it wasn't decisive, and if it was, it was ok because Russia saved America from HRC."
 
We can never know just how effective the Russia campaign was. There isn't a questionnaire that people fill out asking what disinformation they believed. What we do know is that people tend to believe whatever supports their bias and seldom bother to confirm its validity because that defeats the purpose.
 
Trump Tweets

John Solomon: Factual errors and major omissions in the Mueller Report show that it is totally biased against Trump.

“Mueller’s report was pure, political garbage!” @SeanHannity
 
But, it exonerated him didn't it?
At least that's what Trump's been telling us for weeks...
 
Tolls said:
But, it exonerated him didn't it?
At least that's what Trump's been telling us for weeks...
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Well, it sort of did. Once the GRU dumped the e-mails they'd stolen from Democratic Party members and servers on Wikileaks, they didn't have to conspire with the Russians (though members of the campaign clearly knew it was the Russians who hacked the e-mails).
 
Crossbow said:
Therefore, if I may suggest in the future, if 'Ziggurat' posts something that you find to be really odd in the face of the facts that have been clearly presented, then simply ask him to clarify his posting. I have found this approach to be most useful.
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Pretty sure that's what I did. I guess we'll find out when he comes back later to address the question properly.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

John Solomon: Factual errors and major omissions in the Mueller Report show that it is totally biased against Trump.

“Mueller’s report was pure, political garbage!” @SeanHannity
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My mom used to say, “It’s nice to be nice.”

It’s nice to want to smear soft dog turds all over someone’s face, isn’t it, mom? Asking for my brother.
 
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Weird hypothetical....

Let's suppose one day, FDR and Churchill drunkenly murdered a hobo for fun. FBI start investigating. Fearing that an investigation and subsequent coverage of a trial would jeopardize relations and the war effort, FDR orders it to stop.

Is that obstruction of Justice?
 
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