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Merged Euthanasia

Vixen said:
Take her away from her environment. Maybe a Meditteranean cruise, attain a place at a University with a good possibility of making new friends and taking up an interesting course of study.

At seventeen, all she had ever done was live at home.
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Yes, what you said. SOmething anything rather than help some young attractive girl take her own life.
 
Elagabalus said:
Thanks, you two. I had a feeling about this one. Something just didn't add up. I'll never trust the OP again.
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After a recent comment saying that people who could die from touching nuts are perhaps "meant to die" ... while speaking to a father whose child has a virulent nut allergy ... in the community section of this website ... yeah, that's an astonishingly malevolent comment, so much so that I surmised the poster's sole motivation was to inflict pain. Oh, and look "edgy" while doing it. I'm not big on ignoring people or anything like that, but IMO a line has been crossed and I'm not sure what the remedy would be.

There are Dutch-speaking ISF members who maybe should have been enlisted to debunk this. But expecting every European to step in when a story has been manipulated is probably not fair. Still, I would certainly welcome their input. It doesn't make the discussion any less interesting when we pause to get the facts right.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Most of the time people who want to die, kill themselves. People who want help try to kill themselves.
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I don't think this claim can stand without more data ... a way to quantify the "seriousness" of an effort to rule out "cries for help."
 
theprestige said:
It's always a tragedy when some pretty young thing deprives me of the opportunity to get my whacks in.
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If she'd been ugly it would have been more understandable? I wasn't sure what to make of the "attractive" comment.

theprestige said:
I shoulda done like that other guy, and forced the issue when I had the chance.
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I have no idea who you're talking about here.
 
Vixen said:
... sufferers and their loved ones are grateful for any extra time together.
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which obvisously means that everyone else wants some time together, no other options. you and others -- stop being pathetic with this US-crap style of condolence towards a person you have never even met.
 
I can't stand this, really. all those preaching nice future and what not -- have you suffered at least the same?
 
Bob001 said:
For starters, by committing her to a psychiatric hospital, where she would receive medication and psychotherapy. You might not be able to entirely prevent suicide by someone who is truly determined to die, but you can sure make it much harder and much less appealing.
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so you assume she was half-wit and couldn't function without 'medication and psychotherapy'? why? because many others don't do euthanasia (or smth else similar, as it seems from recent posts)
 
Planigale said:
But we do know that at 17 the brain is still developing. There is good evidence that people do 'grow out of' adolescent behavioural disorders. The majority of people with anorexia will recover given time.

On the other hand I am sure the people concerned did do due diligence before progressing with the individuals request.
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Oh honey, sufffer some more years, maybe ten. your brain is still developing. I read it on facebook ;P
 
Minoosh said:
I don't think this claim can stand without more data ... a way to quantify the "seriousness" of an effort to rule out "cries for help."
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Data relating to that has already been posted i think.

Though thinking about it, I know people who have attempted suicide, failed, then admitted it was a cry for help.

I have never met any people who have attempted suicide, succeeded, then admitted it was a cry for help.
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The Don said:
I guess until someone manages to kill themselves my some other means that makes us feel less *icky* than them being allowed to choose euthanasia.

Of course that method may cause the person far more pain and suffering and, depending on how they choose to kill themselves, may have a greater impact on a larger number of people but the key thing is that we shouldn't feel uncomfortable. :rolleyes:
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I hear getting drunk and then getting out in the cold is quite nice. won't work in many regions though
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
This is a straw man as well. No one is making this argument. Not even close.
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could you please stop mentioning strawman all the time if you have no other arguments. I have no intentions of making strawmen. i am not directing them at you particularly, if you feel like that
 
kayle said:
could you please stop mentioning strawman all the time if you have no other arguments. I have no intentions of making strawmen. i am not directing them at you particularly, if you feel like that
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Have you read this thread through from the time you posted yesterday till today? There's been some surprising developments.
 
and... my friend killed himself. tied himself to a tree and poured petrol on him and then lit it up. so please continue your pos-vibe people talking about future husbands/wives. can you the ef imagine for a second and for a tenth of it, how he felt?
 
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