The Trump Presidency 14

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Ladewig said:
Trump has personal magnetism.

It is just that the poles are reversed. President Clinton’s magnetism attracts people; President Trump’s magnetism repels people.
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Remember though, as Trump and Randy Rainbow says, "he's a very stable genius".

 
Aridas said:
Impeaching Trump is actually something of a seriously odd topic, indicative of how terrible a place we're in, politically and as a country. Trump's a crook. He's very blatantly been a crook for a very long time.
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Excellent piece & good analysis.

Norman Alexander said:
What needs to be remembered here is that the actual best outcome for the Democrats is for Trump to not finish his term.
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You say that as though you think Pence would be an improvement.

Better a crook than a zealot.

Trebuchet said:
Not all people. He's very attractive to racists, for example.
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And look, let's be honest about the good things Trump has actually done.

As of now, intellectually handicapped, illiterate and outright insane people have all been given the certain knowledge that their personal problems do not exclude them from becoming president of the entire United States.
 
theprestige said:
Once upon a time, we had Adolf Hitler. But he was nothing compared to the scourge of... Mitch McConnell.

This is what progressives actually believe.
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You know, it would be okay to demonize your opponents, I guess, but not by claiming they're demonizing their opponents. It's a little too transparent.
 
Craig4 said:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/24/politics/donald-trump-air-force-one-travel-foreign-trips/index.html

I enjoyed this article about staffers flying on Air Force One. I like that the stupid freaks and morons got their Jobs working for that stupid bitch and are now so miserable.
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I see it as CNN serving up something of dubious news value just because people will click on it. It might fuel some paranoia on Trump's part which is OK with me.

IMO CNN is not doing itself any favors by using unnamed sources on such a trivial story. Sometimes it's necessary in order to report something of compelling national interest. Gosh, I learned that he watches a lot of TV, doesn't sleep and is completely self-centered and inconsiderate. That's not even news. He doesn't like fish served with its head attached. Probably he doesn't like any fish except maybe McDonald's Filet-O-Fish.

I wish the Saudis had served him sheep eyeballs in fermented camel's milk.
 
Minoosh said:
I see it as CNN serving up something of dubious news value just because people will click on it. It might fuel some paranoia on Trump's part which is OK with me.

IMO CNN is not doing itself any favors by using unnamed sources on such a trivial story. Sometimes it's necessary in order to report something of compelling national interest. Gosh, I learned that he watches a lot of TV, doesn't sleep and is completely self-centered and inconsiderate. That's not even news. He doesn't like fish served with its head attached. Probably he doesn't like any fish except maybe McDonald's Filet-O-Fish.

I wish the Saudis had served him sheep eyeballs in fermented camel's milk.
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I agree. But I will say this about Trump's staff. They sold their souls to the devil.
 
Minoosh said:
That might happen without impeachment. In fact impeachment might motivate them to double down. Yes, 33 (I think) senators face re-election next year and some Republicans will be vulnerable. I can think of one in my state.
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I think that the last numbers that I saw was that about 12 of the Republican Senators up for re-election are considered at least somewhat vulnerable at present.

acbytesla said:
Remember though, as Trump and Randy Rainbow says, "he's a very stable genius".
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Randy, of course, being the much more trustworthy of the two. Either way, Trump's such a stable genius that he inspired the STABLE GENIUS Act.

The Atheist said:
Excellent piece & good analysis.
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Thank you.

The Atheist said:
You say that as though you think Pence would be an improvement.

Better a crook than a zealot.
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If he was just an incompetent crook, that'd be one thing. He's not. It's hard to say whether Pence would be better or not with a categorical like that. For people concerned with National Security and international relations, for example, Pence is likely to be far less treasonous and generally horrendous than Trump. Admittedly, the bar there is really, really absurdly low. When it comes to corruption, Pence is likely to be notably better. When it comes to picking competent people that can actually do the job in the first place, Pence is likely better. When it comes to LGBT and Women's rights, Pence is likely to be worse... if only because he'd be able to get things done directly, rather than from the background like he's been doing.

Anyways, random news time.

Where's your vaunted civility, Right wingers? Report catalogues soaring incidents of trespassing, disruption, and intimidation at abortion clinics

In its latest annual tally released this week, instances of trespassing at clinics hit 1,135, a 78% rise from 2017 to 2018. There were 125 vandalism incidents, the highest number since 1990. In 2017, there were 1,704 instances of obstruction of a clinic; in 2018, NAF recorded 3,038 incidents. There were also 57 threats of death or harm at clinics last year, including one in which a forced-birther with a bullhorn yelled to staff entering a clinic, “I have a bullet with your name on it.”
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Next up, more confirmation of the obvious.

Clapper is also clear in exactly why there wasn’t a larger effort in 2016 to fight back against Russia launching a military operation to interfere in a U.S. election."House Speaker Paul Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said they would not support a bipartisan statement that might hurt their nominee for president," wrote Clapper. "It seemed they had decided by then that they didn't care who their nominee was, how he got elected or what effects having a foreign power influence our election would have on the nation, as long as they won."
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The Republican leadership was and is traitorous.

And... as the party of financial responsibility - After passing a prison reform bill, Mississippi stole the money for new tax cuts—now the bill's due. Ahh, the joys of seeing the Republicans in a wholly self-inflicted bind that also distinctly harms their constituents and America as a whole. :( Well, I tried to feel those joys, but nothing's coming. I'm not much one for schadenfreude, still.
 
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Minoosh said:
I see it as CNN serving up something of dubious news value just because people will click on it. It might fuel some paranoia on Trump's part which is OK with me.

IMO CNN is not doing itself any favors by using unnamed sources on such a trivial story. Sometimes it's necessary in order to report something of compelling national interest. Gosh, I learned that he watches a lot of TV, doesn't sleep and is completely self-centered and inconsiderate. That's not even news. He doesn't like fish served with its head attached. Probably he doesn't like any fish except maybe McDonald's Filet-O-Fish.

I wish the Saudis had served him sheep eyeballs in fermented camel's milk.
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Perhaps but his employees are so miserable. How can you not be happy about that?
 
Belz... said:
Don't be so sure. Trump's ineffective and insane. Pence is neither.
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Yes he is.
Very law he sponsored got shot down in the courts. He has no charisma.
Only Evangelicals really support him, which is not the same as Trump's base. He would not be able to bring out the vote.
Also, he can't play the media like Trump and would get nailed down for the stupid things he says and does.
And literally no one in Washington likes him - McConnell would try to get rid of him after he signed every possible pardon.
 
Brainache said:
I know a lot of people are saying that impeaching Trump won't work because the Senate will let him off, but is that really what would happen? Don't those Senators also have to face the voters at some point?
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Sure, and 90% of the ones they'll be facing in their primaries approve of Trump.

I mean if the house presents an air-tight case of "high crimes" etc. is there no chance at all that enough Senate Republicans might decide that their best chance for re-election is to distance themselves from Trump?
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Not much of one, no. So far it's been pretty well established that as far as Trump's supporters in the GOP electorate are concerned he can do no wrong. There would be no such thing as an "air-tight case". 'Fake News' and 'alternative facts' will see to that. It's difficult to even imagine what could change their minds if they haven't been changed by now.

Those Senators' (22 of them, anyway) chances for reelection are nil if they don't get past the primaries, and their concern is going to be getting out-Trumped by primary challengers. Any signs of faltering from the Trump Train while in Congress will be used against them.
 
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dudalb said:
I think war with Iran is a horrid mistake, but this whole comparing 9/11 with gun deaths is just plain stupid. It's just a althered version o fthe "More people were killed in traffic accidents" argument.
By your argument that the us should get "its won house in order before doing anything in foreing affairs" argument, back in 1941 because the US had segregation, we should not have done anything against Nazi Germany or Japan.

SO we should have just done nothing after 9/11?
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Wasn't invading Afghanistan doing something?

At least that had some marginal connection to 9/11. Unlike invading Iraq.
 
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Craig4 said:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/24/politics/donald-trump-air-force-one-travel-foreign-trips/index.html

I'm curious what was going through the mind of the Conway bitch. Why did she think The Speaker of the House would lower herself to responding to the help when the only person she should be responding to had left the room.
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I guess Trump isn't the only one in the White House with an over-inflated ego.

I mean really, what was she expecting? Oh gee, the President walked out on our meeting so now I should talk with his staff? What the hell for?

The staff does most of the work in most administrations and I bet the speaker has a valuable staff too. But it's absurd to think Conway was being mistreated.
 
acbytesla said:
I guess Trump isn't the only one in the White House with an over-inflated ego.

I mean really, what was she expecting? Oh gee, the President walked out on our meeting so now I should talk with his staff? What the hell for?
The staff does most of the work in most administrations and I bet the speaker has a valuable staff too. But it's absurd to think Conway was being mistreated.
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Exactly.

Trump left with the message that he wasn't going to have anything to to with them.

Why should Pelosi expect any of Trump's staff to gainsay him? Were they going to tell her, "Oh, you can't take what he says seriously. We'll just carry on like he never said anything."?

Wait a sec. That does sound like something Conway might say.
 
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