So we're on the same page, how about you tell me what you think my "general beliefs" are. Until then there's no point going further.
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So we're on the same page, how about you tell me what you think my "general beliefs" are. Until then there's no point going further.
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Foolmewunz
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Who knew it would be so simple? Does that offer go for everyone, or just me? Cuz if that's all it takes to stop you from posting your lies, I'm sure there are several other posters who'd like fade me for some of the action.
Note to others: It's not a serious offer. This is how those who are bankrupt of facts try to get out of admitting that the are. We have a few paleos who are masters of this tactic. "Oooh, that's so offensive! I was going to tear your logic apart step by step but now I'm not even talking to you! Nyah!"
Foolmewunz
Grammar Resistance Leader, TLA Dictator
You're sarcasm challenged, aren't you? I said, you should show me a post making light of rape. You think Stacy's post does that? Hint: Wrong (as usual). She's making fun of Trumpty Dumpty and the clowns who believe his lies.
'I was going to tear your "general beliefs" apart but you called me out before I can strawman you.' Boomer argumentation at its finest.
Fool me wunz says I'm wrong. That hurts. Did stacyhs mention "Trumpty Dumpty" in her post? No. So you're wrong (again) (See what I did there god I'm clever!) She denied rape was talking place. Thats making light of rape. Genocide denial makes light of genocide, 9/11 trutherism makes light of 9/11.
Norman Alexander
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OK, you didn't answer. Noted.
Where am I wrong again? Can't wait for you to tell me.
I should hope it's being fought! You could start with the folks in your own linked report. They are in the USA and should be easily reachable in a few day's drive from where you are. Take a gun; bring 'em in.
Border crossings =/= "Muslim Mexican illegals invasion". Far from it. Tourist numbers are up too, from hundreds of countries around the world. Tens of millions annually and growing each and every year since whenever. They cross your border too, not just the Mexican one. And a fair number of them break their visa limits and stay - they are "illegals". Are they part of this so-called "invasion" too?
Yes I did
Sure. Right here:
Quiet for keyboard warriors not for the people at the border.
Norman Alexander
Penultimate Amazing
Did you leave out a link or something???
I think you did.
Quiet for an invasion. I expected a lot more ragheads yelling "Allahu Akbar!" And artillery. And rockets. And tanks. And tactical nucular strikes. Etc. As it is, and as I said myself...
It seems not reading beyond the headline or first sentence is a problem you need to work on.Me said:
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No. I'm repeating myself again because of your inability to follow along. I said I'm not providing any more links because of the idiotic and predictable response I get from the user base on this forum. I said that two hours ago and you already forgot.
Keyboards warriors have no idea what an invasion looks like. You imagine an invasion like a Hollywood movie when it's nothing like that. Your disclosure of what you keep "expecting" is proof of your lack of life experience and detachment from reality.
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PhantomWolf
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What are you smoking? She never denied that rapes were happening, she was pointing out that the families that were coming over the border are not the terrorists, rapists, drug dealers, and killers that Trump Inc is claiming that they are.
She never mentioned Trump in her post and her flippant sarcasm is a denial and mockery of rape and trafficked victims.
TofuFighter
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Your interpretation of what Stacyhs said is so bizarre that it's difficult to read it as anything but dishonesty. There is no denial and no mockery, except of Trump's consistent lies on the matter.
Also, she specifically mentions Trump in the very next post, which should really eliminate the repeated objection you've doggedly been clinging to that no reference to Trump was made.
PhantomWolf
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She didn't have to. If I said "no, I am your father," do I have to tell you who I am referencing? There is only one idiot in chief that is going on about all the terrorists, rapists, drug dealers, and killers coming over the border, oh and some of them are good people too, probably on both sides.
Stop playing thick.
Foolmewunz
Grammar Resistance Leader, TLA Dictator
When you quote someone's catchphrases, it's pretty obvious to anyone who can think who you're referring to.
Are you confessing to being so thick that you actually thought she was not parodying someone?
Shalamar
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I wonder if it's either: 'She wouldn't have been raped if she didn't cross the border' or 'It's ok, because she was an illegal'.
Hard to tell.
Stacyhs
Penultimate Amazing
You didn't read the article, did you? That's rather apparent.
How long do you want to play ping pong?
Stacyhs
Penultimate Amazing
Oh, for gawd's sake. Read the exchanges above and tell me with a straight face I was being serious. That was sarcasm! Are you going to tell me I was making jokes about killers, drug dealers and terrorists too? Get a grip on reality here. I was clearly making fun of Trump and his "national emergency" rhetoric as were the others. Well, it was clear to everyone but you, apparently.
Stacyhs
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I assumed everyone here was intelligent enough to understand my sarcasm was directed at Trump's long standing immigration rhetoric. Apparently I was wrong; you know what they say about 'assuming'. My bad.
ETA: for the sarcasm-challenged, the above was sarcasm.
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Most of us are upset about this situation, whether you are upset about the treatment of these people once they are here, or the fact that we let them come in at all, or the action/inaction of our government, or all of the above.
Everybody in this thread is upset about some aspect of this and you should be. That should bring people together here, not be a wedge.
We are on the same side as far as that goes, aren't we? This needs to be addressed, correct?
But what exactly needs to be addressed?
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/14/politics/border-patrol-mcallen-texas-pictures/index.html
According to this CNN article almost 500,000 people have crossed the border illegally so far this year already (mentioned in video).
Last year was 400,000 for the entire year.
The number of people crossing now is "staggering" according to CNN. Lack of beds, family separations...sounds like an emergency to me. Not a National Emergency, but an emergency.
This article centers on families seen sleeping outside on grass during the day and how much of a problem the overcrowding is.
What do we do about it? We're processing them and setting them loose in our country on a daily basis and we still can't keep up. We shouldn't be expected to be at the ready with enough beds for all these people because this should not be happening at all.
The problem as I see it is how easy it is for them to get in and stay, both politically and geographically/logistically. That is what needs to be addressed.
We can't let over 1 million people per year (and growing) "sneak" into this country - and that's just the illegals on the southern border. They come in at other locations too, plus how many actual immigrants (legal) do we let in yearly and how are they affected by this?
There is no getting around the fact that we cannot let in everyone who wants to be here. That means we need to turn people away and/or remove whatever incentives are attracting so many people in the first place. Does anyone disagree with this?
Neither Repub nor Dem politicians want this issue solved apparently. As I've said here before, they are exploiting these people for power (votes and money) and they are using our empathy to sell it to us.
We all seem to agree there is a problem here, and to me, the core problem is that there are too many illegals getting into our country. It's pretty simple. Even if you don't like that answer and you want them all here we've already seen we simply can't handle the numbers. There are good reasons to limit these numbers - those reasons are in the news every day.
Y'all are bickering about what Stacyhs said 2 pages ago when really we are all looking to solve the same problem.
Unless you think that over a million people per year (and growing) is okay and that we should forever expand our capacity to house and process these people, we agree that there are too many illegals coming in.
There are a lot of reasons for why this is happening, but that is the core problem I think we all should be able to agree on, even here.
Everybody in this thread is upset about some aspect of this and you should be. That should bring people together here, not be a wedge.
We are on the same side as far as that goes, aren't we? This needs to be addressed, correct?
But what exactly needs to be addressed?
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/14/politics/border-patrol-mcallen-texas-pictures/index.html
According to this CNN article almost 500,000 people have crossed the border illegally so far this year already (mentioned in video).
Last year was 400,000 for the entire year.
The number of people crossing now is "staggering" according to CNN. Lack of beds, family separations...sounds like an emergency to me. Not a National Emergency, but an emergency.
This article centers on families seen sleeping outside on grass during the day and how much of a problem the overcrowding is.
What do we do about it? We're processing them and setting them loose in our country on a daily basis and we still can't keep up. We shouldn't be expected to be at the ready with enough beds for all these people because this should not be happening at all.
The problem as I see it is how easy it is for them to get in and stay, both politically and geographically/logistically. That is what needs to be addressed.
We can't let over 1 million people per year (and growing) "sneak" into this country - and that's just the illegals on the southern border. They come in at other locations too, plus how many actual immigrants (legal) do we let in yearly and how are they affected by this?
There is no getting around the fact that we cannot let in everyone who wants to be here. That means we need to turn people away and/or remove whatever incentives are attracting so many people in the first place. Does anyone disagree with this?
Neither Repub nor Dem politicians want this issue solved apparently. As I've said here before, they are exploiting these people for power (votes and money) and they are using our empathy to sell it to us.
We all seem to agree there is a problem here, and to me, the core problem is that there are too many illegals getting into our country. It's pretty simple. Even if you don't like that answer and you want them all here we've already seen we simply can't handle the numbers. There are good reasons to limit these numbers - those reasons are in the news every day.
Y'all are bickering about what Stacyhs said 2 pages ago when really we are all looking to solve the same problem.
Unless you think that over a million people per year (and growing) is okay and that we should forever expand our capacity to house and process these people, we agree that there are too many illegals coming in.
There are a lot of reasons for why this is happening, but that is the core problem I think we all should be able to agree on, even here.