That,s my point exactly. These guys can't even get off the ground because their numbers are so tiny and given the infighting withing and between these groups, they *probably* never will.
Hey, you're Dutch right ? Is there any truth to a story I ran across that had a Dutch politician advocating a special Halal beach, or special Halal areas of beaches because Dutch Muslims weren't happy with what they are seeing on Dutch beaches ?
Reason I'm asking is I saw it on some weird website. I can't remember which one but since I don't speak Dutch running down the veracity of this claim is rather difficult.
If it's true then would criticism of such an idea amount to anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant speech and if so, is that criticism something that should be banned from Facebook ?
Yeah, I'm Dutch.
The story is from the Hague (Den Haag).
*Opens can of worms*
OK, the Hague has a significant Muslim minority, and they now have their own local party. Trollingly called the Party of Unity.
A prominent member is Arnoud van Doorn. Mister van Doorn was previously a member of the Party of Freedom, the notorious anti-Islam party of Geert Wilders. One fine morning Mister van Doorn decided he was the wrong kind of extremist and abandoned Dutch Nationalism to become an enthusiastic and activist Muslim. I think he gets paid via some Islamic non-profit that gets money from Saudi Arabia.
He makes a point of being divisive.
This party has now said that Muslims are not comfortable being at the beach with scantly-clad white people and since the nudists have their separate section of the local beach, they want a Muslim section.
For now, it was just headline-grabbing and trolling.
There is some debate about this online from all sides, and to my knowledge, there are no restrictions on such debate.
EDIT: could that happen? I very much think a debate about this could be made impossible if the Social Media platforms delegate their curating to left-wing activists and do not ensure a diverse panel to weigh their decisions to ban people.
We've already seen universities in the US employ 'diversity officers' who promptly started to exclude white men from their events to increase 'diversity'.
I also think that as the platforms start to restrict speech, sane opposition to mass immigration, even if framed as an economic argument, will be the first victim.
And that would kick the whole thing into a new phase. You see, now the Nazi's run to certain platforms like GAB and these platforms become essentially racist platforms. But as platforms ban less extreme people, these too will flee to alternative platforms and that is when places like GAB will stop being just a place to quarantine Nazis, and will become more vibrant and will again give the extreme right an audience outside its own ranks.
I think it is very important that only the fringes on the right (Nazis) and left (Stalinists) be excluded from the main platforms. But I think the slippery slope is real and there will be never-ending scope-creep.
