A Celebrity's Opinion. Who Cares?

[Puppycow]

So is Israel Folau going to be banished from the sport?

Israel Folau issued with code of conduct breach notice by Rugby Australia

Although his comments are utter rubbish, I feel more pity for him for his quaint beliefs than worry that his ravings will hurt anybody. He is like one of those crazy street preachers you sometimes see in a big city standing on the corner with a posterboard ranting about sins. They can usually just be ignored or mocked. Can they just cancel his contract, just like that? I imagine sponsors have already dropped him, which is great. I would not want to associate myself with him either. I guess it's just a bit of a shame to see a good player throw away his career like this. But he had been warned. I suppose he can't say that he wasn't told that this would be the result if he continued this nonsense.

 

[mgidm86]

Interesting question. I wonder if ending celebrityism would actually be an improvement.

It's a naturally occurring phenomenon, something people just end up doing when left to their own devices. It's probably an expression of some deep-seated fact of human nature. Try to suppress it, and it'll just come out in other ways. Try to get rid of it, and the cure would likely be worse than the disease.

Kind of like how the Soviet Union tried to control the marketplace, and ended up with a metric ass-ton of extra human suffering, plus a black market because people needed a marketplace anyway regardless of what was "for their own good".

I didn't mean that we should forcefully end it. I just wonder what it would take for enough people to finally "get it" and move away from it. It's probably impossible.

But then some people like myself have no interest in celebrities. I don't think they or anyone else are worthy of being idolized. So it is possible for people to think the whole thing is stupid, just not enough people do. There are too many stupid people.

People made Paris Hilton a celebrity, so I don't see that any progress can be made anytime soon. Every time a Rosie O'Donnell or a Scott Baio, Madonna, DeNiro, Samuel L open their mouth about social or political issues you just know they're going to say something stupid. It should be enough to convince people but it isn't.

The fact that people can sit through ten minutes of commercials that insult their intelligence just so they can watch twenty minutes of "Third Rock" says it all to me.

 

[Thor 2]

I didn't mean that we should forcefully end it. I just wonder what it would take for enough people to finally "get it" and move away from it. It's probably impossible.

But then some people like myself have no interest in celebrities. I don't think they or anyone else are worthy of being idolized. So it is possible for people to think the whole thing is stupid, just not enough people do. There are too many stupid people.

People made Paris Hilton a celebrity, so I don't see that any progress can be made anytime soon. Every time a Rosie O'Donnell or a Scott Baio, Madonna, DeNiro, Samuel L open their mouth about social or political issues you just know they're going to say something stupid. It should be enough to convince people but it isn't.

The fact that people can sit through ten minutes of commercials that insult their intelligence just so they can watch twenty minutes of "Third Rock" says it all to me.

We seem to be on the same page here.

The problem is so very many just cruise through there lives without doing much thinking themselves, and look to celebrities to do this for them. Perhaps we should be encouraging curiosity in the young.

 

[p0lka]

It's weird though, the ones that are saying everyone is going to hell, are going to hell by their very own buttered toast that is the bible.

 

[Thor 2]

So now this Israel dude is going to challenge the decision to show him the door. Should be interesting.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04...lenges-rugby-australia-breach-notice/11025196

 

[The Atheist]

Oh, all the good ones are coming out in support of Folau.

Mundine, Hopoate, and now the hideous old homophobic bible-basher, Margaret Court.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby...ht-out-of-the-bible-tennis-ace-margaret-court

Some of these religious types should try actually reading the ******* bible before shooting their brainless mouths off.

 

[TragicMonkey]

I love when giant musclemen who wear short shorts to play their full contact homoerotic sport have opinions on homosexuality. Tell me more of your opinions on the gays, sweetie, and could you flex a bit as you opine? Very nice.

 

[dann]

Every time a Rosie O'Donnell or a Scott Baio, Madonna, DeNiro, Samuel L open their mouth about social or political issues you just know they're going to say something stupid.

At least De Niro got better after having first agreed with Trump that vaccines cause autism. And I noticed some celebrities you seem to have missed: https://nordic.businessinsider.com/celebrities-who-support-trump-2016-11?r=US&IR=T

 

[Thor 2]

Oh, all the good ones are coming out in support of Folau.

Mundine, Hopoate, and now the hideous old homophobic bible-basher, Margaret Court.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby...ht-out-of-the-bible-tennis-ace-margaret-court

Some of these religious types should try actually reading the ******* bible before shooting their brainless mouths off.

Oh no doubt they read their ******* Bibles but I think they are dog eared on these pages:

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)

If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. (Leviticus 20:13)

Margaret Court possibly has some divine inspiration working for her also, because she is condemning of lesbians who are taking over the tennis courts. No mention of lesbians in the Bible, but I guess Margaret can squeeze them into the picture also.

 

[mgidm86]

At least De Niro got better after having first agreed with Trump that vaccines cause autism. And I noticed some celebrities you seem to have missed: https://nordic.businessinsider.com/celebrities-who-support-trump-2016-11?r=US&IR=T

Scott Baio supported Trump which is why I mentioned him. He's the only Trump supporter I could think of off the top of my head (sadly perhaps hah).

The Hollywood dorks are at it in full force since the Mueller report came out. It isn't bad enough that most Hollywood movies suck now, but we also have to see how idiotic and annoying the actors are too.

Remember when people expected Lady GaGa to talk crap about Trump during her Super Bowl halftime show and she didn't? Smart woman, she lost no fans that night and gained a lot of new ones.

 

[quadraginta]

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The Hollywood dorks are at it in full force since the Mueller report came out. It isn't bad enough that most Hollywood movies suck now, but we also have to see how idiotic and annoying the actors are too.

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Most Hollywood movies have always sucked.

The veils of time have mercifully spared most of us from having to endure all the dross.

As more time passes the same will certainly be true of the movies coming out now.

I expect the same is true of actors.

 

[dann]

Smart woman, she lost no fans that night and gained a lot of new ones.

I guess she's lost those again, but she may have won back the respect of the old ones:

The 32-year-old halted her performance midway through the 2016 hit Million Reasons in order to address the ongoing shutdown of the U.S. government.
“There are people who live paycheque to paycheque and need their money,” she said.
“[Could] the ******* president of the United States please put our government back?” Gaga asked in front of a roaring crowd, who cheered and applauded.
Lady Gaga calls out Donald Trump, Mike Pence during Vegas show (Global News, Jan. 21, 2019)

 

[dann]

I love when giant musclemen who wear short shorts to play their full contact homoerotic sport have opinions on homosexuality. Tell me more of your opinions on the gays, sweetie, and could you flex a bit as you opine? Very nice.

So if you were straight, would you go for the bimbos?

 

[JoeMorgue]

X = Amount I care about a celebrity's opinion.
X - 10 = Amount I care about someone's opinion as to the validity of a celebrity's opinion.

 

[dann]

I think I bought my first Dixie Chicks album fifteen years ago. I'd never heard of them before they criticized the war in Iraq.

 

[dann]

And speaking of Robert De Niro:


(I only wish he had an actual argument. Not that he's wrong, but ...)

 

[The Atheist]

De Niro should shut his stupid mouth.

People like him attacking Trump do one thing only: harden and increase his support. I see dicks like De Niro attacking Trump and I'd be inclined to vote for him just to piss De Niro off, if I were American.

Great actor he might be, but he's a disgusting person who only smoothed over his antivax views because it threatened to destroy his legacy.

Remember, this is the bloke who tried to be very clever by offering a $100k prize to anyone who could prove vaccines work.

Rules decided by De Niro, of course.

The media needs to grow the hell up and not give guys like him a platform.

 

[lionking]

What the OP doesn’t say is that Falou’s contract prohibits him from publicly making homophobic and similar slurs, and he has been warned about this in the past. So no sympathy whatsoever from me. He can believe in what he wants, but can’t broadcast hateful stuff.

A journalist asked what would happen if you wore a t-shirt to work with Falou’s words on it. I don’t know about others, but I would be sent home and told not to do it again. In Falou’s case he’s been told “yes, we know what you believe, but just wear a jacket while at work”.

He wouldn’t even do this. He will be sacked.

 

[The Atheist]

He will be sacked.

Even if he somehow managed to wriggle out and not get fired, Cheika is on record as saying he wouldn't pick Folau anyway, and he's not going to be able to force them.

The law is pretty clear, so I don't see any problem with the decision.

Nice to see him crying about it to the extent he's trying, though.

 

[Gilbert Syndrome]

In the news in Australia we have one Israel Folau, (a rugby champ), getting a lot of attention, as a result of expressing intolerant, religiously inspired, views about homosexuals and such. Simultaneously we have Anthony Mundine, (ex boxer), talking up anti vaccination.

I wonder why people give a damn what these guys views are on these topics. It annoys the crap out of me that it gets reported. Does being a rugby player or a boxer give a guy some special insight into these issues? These uninformed and bigoted views are not news.

Mundine is an actual imbecile, and I'm not sure if many people who aren't mentally challenged pay any actual attention to the things that he says. He once said something along the lines of the USA deserved 9/11, so yeah, imbecile. What's even funnier is he's a **** boxer and has been rightfully KO'd a few times.