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Dover, PA school board tossed out!

ranson

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Of the eight positions up for election in the Dover district, all were filled by new candidates from the Dover CARES opposition group. Good news, I think, and I'm glad that at least some voters still ascribe to the "throw the bums out" theory of politics.
 
The question is will Kansas step up to the plate next year and throw their bums off the school board? Don't hold yer' breath...
 
TragicMonkey said:
The only possible conclusion is that Pennsylvania evolved, while Kansas was intelligently designed.
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What nonsense! The Dover School Board was clearly changed by the collective intelligence of the people. The changes in Kansas' standards are equally clearly not the result of any kind of intelligence.
 
Melendwyr said:
What nonsense! The Dover School Board was clearly changed by the collective intelligence of the people. The changes in Kansas' standards are equally clearly not the result of any kind of intelligence.
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Hmmm. New theory: Unintelligent Design.
 
headscratcher4 said:
The question is will Kansas step up to the plate next year and throw their bums off the school board?
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...again.

It seems Kansas is at a "critical idiot point", which is the transition point between the modern era and middle ages mentality. A light change in idiocy one way or the other, takes the whole state over.

Seriously, though, this ilk has been voted out once before. I know next to nothing of Kansas politics, but I'd be willing to guess that these folks, like the old Dover board, were not elected the "re-bringing ID back to the classroom" platform, but something rather more benign like "better education" or "more financially responsible". I'd be willing to wadger that they'll be out again after the next election.
 
Upchurch said:
...again.

It seems Kansas is at a "critical idiot point", which is the transition point between the modern era and middle ages mentality. A light change in idiocy one way or the other, takes the whole state over.

Seriously, though, this ilk has been voted out once before. I know next to nothing of Kansas politics, but I'd be willing to guess that these folks, like the old Dover board, were not elected the "re-bringing ID back to the classroom" platform, but something rather more benign like "better education" or "more financially responsible". I'd be willing to wadger that they'll be out again after the next election.
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2 of these nitwits just ran for school board in my town (they were defeated), using the "Family Values" mantra. The not-so-subtle message being that a vote against them was a vote against those values. I am pleasantly surprised it didn't work...although one of them did some within a hair's breadth of making it...
 
Mark said:
2 of these nitwits just ran for school board in my town (they were defeated), using the "Family Values" mantra. The not-so-subtle message being that a vote against them was a vote against those values. I am pleasantly surprised it didn't work...although one of them did some within a hair's breadth of making it...
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Did the "Family Values" specifically include ID or did you have any indication that they intended to push ID?
 
Upchurch said:
Did the "Family Values" specifically include ID or did you have any indication that they intended to push ID?
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Not in his campaign literature or signs or statements. He has brought it up in the past as a private citizen many times, which is why many of us were able to call him on it.

The other "ID candidate" is a preacher whose kids are in private religious schools. To be fair, I never personally heard him push ID, but it is taught as fact in the schools his kids attend.
 
A great big difference between Kansas and Dover is that the IDiots controlled a local school board in Pennsylvania, but they control all the public schools in Kansas. Many more educations are at stake in Kansas.
 
fishbob said:
A great big difference between Kansas and Dover is that the IDiots controlled a local school board in Pennsylvania, but they control all the public schools in Kansas. Many more educations are at stake in Kansas.
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The difference, as I see it, is only in scope. The root problem is the same.
 
I've often talked about running in my locality, but there's no way I'd win. Since I'm a relatively young, non-church-going, non-minority, pro-separation-of-church-and-state moderate Republican, I don't really stand a chance while I live in the south.

Oh, yeah; I play DnD, too.

With a teacher. That could be a career-ender for her if it got out.
 
ranson said:
I've often talked about running in my locality, but there's no way I'd win. Since I'm a relatively young, non-church-going, non-minority, pro-separation-of-church-and-state moderate Republican, I don't really stand a chance while I live in the south.

Oh, yeah; I play DnD, too.

With a teacher. That could be a career-ender for her if it got out.
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If you've thought about running you should try it. If your credentials are what you say, and if you could add a voice of reason to the nonesense ID movement, than your's is a voice the needs to be heard, especially in the South. Yeah, you might not win -- at first -- but these people need to no that their redefinition of science will not go unchallenged.
 
I heard something on the radio yesterday about Pat Robertson, and how he has gone off on the folks in Dover for voting out those board members. His comment was something like, "If you folks in Dover are hit by a disaster, don't look to God, because you just voted him out."

Aside from the inanity of the comment in the first place, doesn't he just kind of prove the point that regardless of what ID advocates say, everyone knows darn well who that "designer" is meant to be?

I love the comment from the plaintiff's attorney in the closing arguments: It couldn't be closer to God if you spotted them the G and the D.
 
It seems the Pat Robertson has something to say about the election too.
According to the Associated Press
He said they "voted God out of your city". And that "If they have future problems in Dover, I recommend they call on Charles Darwin. Maybe he can help them."
He makes Kilik sound like the voice of reason.
 
How does Roberston explain all of the natural disasters hitting the Red States. They had some strong rain in Massachusetts and the damn almost broke there in that town, but you would think that Massachusetts, NYC, San Fran. California as a whole, etc. would be a burned over, salt field...and yet, the next tornado to hit Dover and kill a couple of people in a trailer park will be an indication of God's wrath over the school board election...wow.

Vote for the Party of God!
 
A little light of reason shines. That is good news AKA the gospel. :)
 
C S Costa said:
And that "If they have future problems in Dover, I recommend they call on Charles Darwin. Maybe he can help them."
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It would be so awesome if Charles Darwin appeared in a blaze of light to save the town.

Note to self: miniseries.
 
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