Democrats Move to Ensure No More AOCs

I am sort of perplexed how one random junior Representative has become this political litmus test, regardless of how you feel about her.

As I don't hear or know anything about all the newly elected Representatives.
 
I am sort of perplexed how one random junior Representative has become this political litmus test, regardless of how you feel about her.

She's not random, though. She primaried her own party's incumbent, won, and received huge media attention. That's a specific confluence of events that has to raise the eyebrows of the party establishment.

I'm not at all surprised that the party is opting not to work with campaign consultants that get involved in primarying the party's own incumbents. I'm actually a little bit surprised this hasn't been their policy all along.
 
Gotta love establishment Democrats, they're so dedicated to making sure they lose elections the proper way.

Like the Republican establishment is any better? They tried pretty damned hard to keep Trump from getting the nomination. And the case can be made that he's the only one who could have beaten Hillary.
 
No, they are not supposed to be referees. Political parties are private organizations.

It's a Bob-bomb. That argument didn't exactly fly in the Supreme Court when Texas Democrats argued they should be allowed to hold their White Primary. Parties are semi-private (or is it semi-public?) institutions.
 
She's not random, though. She primaried her own party's incumbent, won, and received huge media attention. That's a specific confluence of events that has to raise the eyebrows of the party establishment.



I'm not at all surprised that the party is opting not to work with campaign consultants that get involved in primarying the party's own incumbents. I'm actually a little bit surprised this hasn't been their policy all along.
I want pollsters, for example, to provide the party with accurate data. A pollster that is forced to take an ideological position for or against the party is more vulnerable to influence and bias.

This move divides and corrupts the entire left-wing campaign infrastructure in this country before we even start.
 
It's a Bob-bomb. That argument didn't exactly fly in the Supreme Court when Texas Democrats argued they should be allowed to hold their White Primary. Parties are semi-private (or is it semi-public?) institutions.

A) the Democrats were not who were ruled against in this case. It was the state law.

B) This is why I do not commit to Belz's statement that parties could scrap primaries. There are a lot of states with a lot of election laws that I can't commit to a blanket statement.
 
I want pollsters, for example, to provide the party with accurate data. A pollster that is forced to take an ideological position for or against the party is more vulnerable to influence and bias.
I'm not seeing it.

Pollsters who are working as consultants for a campaign are doing a job. They're getting paid to provide their client with whatever it is their client is paying them for. In theory, accurate data, but anyone getting paid to provide a service is vulnerable to the impulse to give the customer a favorable impression of the service they're paying for. This is unavoidable.

What the DNC is saying is that pollsters who take on consultancy jobs for primarying incumbents will find the rest of their potential client list evaporating - regardless of the quality of the data they provide. It's not a question of taking an ideological position about their data, but about their choice of clients.

Personally, I'd be more inclined to trust a non-ideological, mercenary consultant in this scenario. Someone who switches parties, from race to race, based purely on who will pay him the most for his services, is more likely to give good quality service than someone who sticks to a particular client or client list for ideological reasons.

But whatever. The DNC is saying, "whether you're selling what your clients need to know, or selling them what they want to hear, if you don't sell it to our incumbents now, you won't sell it to our incumbents ever".

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Side note: Does the DNC also blacklist consultants who have worked for GOP candidates in the past? Or is competing with them in a general election different from competing in a primary?
 
The ones doing this are not the liberals. They're the Republican servants, trying to stop liberals from taking over.

Let's just keep up the "we don't need no stinking centrist/moderates" stuff.
And hand Trump reelection on a silver platter.
 
Let's just keep up the "we don't need no stinking centrist/moderates" stuff.
And hand Trump reelection on a silver platter.

bUt tHe AMeRiCAn lEfT WuD bE oN tHe RIgHt iN mY cOUNtry!

*Gotdam it's hard to type that way...*
 
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Let's just keep up the "we don't need no stinking centrist/moderates" stuff.
And hand Trump reelection on a silver platter.

In this case it's literally "we don't need no stinking progressives", regardless of how well liked they are or if they beat out the centrists.

This is exactly the kind of **** that causes people who would otherwise have voted democrat to stay home or vote third party.

If anything is going to hand Trump a reelection it's these sorts of oblivious despicable actions.
 
If anything is going to hand Trump a reelection it's these sorts of oblivious despicable actions.

You say that like defeating Trump is a higher priority than defending incumbents. Evidence suggests it isn't.
 
If the Democrats don't like AOC they could stop responding to her. As if there were some sort of button that would aid in that. It would clear the air of a great deal of noise.
 
Let's just keep up the "we don't need no stinking centrist/moderates" stuff.
So your response to an example of the Republican wing of the Democratic Party trying to suppress the left is to whine that the left suppresses the Republican wing of the Democratic Party.
 
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You say that like defeating Trump is a higher priority than defending incumbents. Evidence suggests it isn't.

What?

I'm saying that telling your voters you don't care what they want, they're going to vote for who you tell them to and like it, is asking for people to stay home or vote third party.

If a progressive challenger can beat a centrist incumbent in a fair primary then they should be on the ticket. If they can't then that's fine too. But don't try to rig it one way or the other.
 
What?

I'm saying that telling your voters you don't care what they want, they're going to vote for who you tell them to and like it, is asking for people to stay home or vote third party.

If a progressive challenger can beat a centrist incumbent in a fair primary then they should be on the ticket. If they can't then that's fine too. But don't try to rig it one way or the other.

And the primaries remain fair.
 
If the Democrats don't like AOC they could stop responding to her. As if there were some sort of button that would aid in that. It would clear the air of a great deal of noise.

I honestly don't know much about her, save her green deal stuff, and her high-pitched voice, but why is she so much in the news lately? What's so cool or horrible about her?
 
I honestly don't know much about her, save her green deal stuff, and her high-pitched voice, but why is she so much in the news lately? What's so cool or horrible about her?

She's an exciting young visionary who defeated an incumbent and is speaking truth to power and inspiring the youth vote. Whether this is cool or horrible depends on your point of view.
 
I honestly don't know much about her, save her green deal stuff, and her high-pitched voice, but why is she so much in the news lately? What's so cool or horrible about her?

Because she can recognize a hint when it drops on her head at terminal velocity.
 

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