horrifying attack on Jussie Smollett

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So: was Smollett shaken down by CPD for 10 large, or did he pay off CPD to drop it?

Perfect plausible deniability for all!
 
Deferred prosecution agreement surrendering $10,000 and Smollett's attorney is still asserting that the attack happened. Boy I'd love to know what happened here, this result makes no sense.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Boy I'd love to know what happened here, this result makes no sense.
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It's essentially explained...

Chicago Sun-Times said:
“After reviewing all of the facts and circumstances of the case, including Mr. Smollet’s volunteer service in the community and agreement to forfeit his bond to the City of Chicago, we believe this outcome is a just disposition and appropriate resolution to this case,” the Cook County state’s attorney’s office said in statement.
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They basically decided that Smollett has already been "punished" for the crimes.
 
Up until the charges were dropped, I had come around mostly to the view that Jussie had perpetrated a hoax. But the main evidence that pushed me over that line was law enforcement apparent certainty.

As I said before, any interpretation of the facts is going to have some degree of head scratching weirdness.

Right now I can think of two semi plausible explanations why the case is dropped that fit the publicly available evidence. I've stepped away from following this for a bit, so feel free to correct me if I'm missing anything newer.

1) Its being dropped for reasons unrelated to the prosecutor's certainty that Jussie perpetrated a hoax. This might be some political or image concern. It might be some police or evidence handling misconduct which would make CPD look bad and make it not worth prosecuting.

2) New information has come to light which casts doubt on the brother's story. A few posters here are suggesting that the brothers apparent ability to beat the cheap out of Smollett means that Smollett must have been a willing co-conspirator. It seems to me that the brothers may have had a plan that involved scaring Smollett but not necessarily injuring him. It would be a weird motivation, but so is just about every other motivation. Off the top of my head, they could have been trying to scare him into hiring them as bodyguards. We know he didn't have one and that they would fit the role well. Or they might have been laying the groundwork with the letter and the attack for some third action which they'd then pin on the made up white supremacists. I think evidence that the brothers rather than Jussie created the letter would weigh towards this option (unless I missed some stronger evidence which ties Jussie to the letter. In which case, I'd expect some federal charges)

I'd be interested to hear other theories for why the case might be dropped at this stage.
 
William Parcher said:
It's essentially explained...


They basically decided that Smollett has already been "punished" for the crimes.
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I am confusing deferred prosecution and deferred judgment. Seems that deferred prosecution does not require entering a guilty plea.

This is a very unsatisfying conclusion. No exoneration, no admittance of guilt, just a cash fine to make the problem go away. This doesn't strike me as justice in any sense.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
I am confusing deferred prosecution and deferred judgment. Seems that deferred prosecution does not require entering a guilty plea.

This is a very unsatisfying conclusion. No exoneration, no admittance of guilt, just a cash fine to make the problem go away. This doesn't strike me as justice in any sense.
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Welcome to the States!
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
I am confusing deferred prosecution and deferred judgment. Seems that deferred prosecution does not require entering a guilty plea.

This is a very unsatisfying conclusion. No exoneration, no admittance of guilt, just a cash fine to make the problem go away. This doesn't strike me as justice in any sense.
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I don't think he still has his job. Although they may rehire him.


And apologize!
 
Cavemonster said:
Up until the charges were dropped, I had come around mostly to the view that Jussie had perpetrated a hoax. But the main evidence that pushed me over that line was law enforcement apparent certainty.

As I said before, any interpretation of the facts is going to have some degree of head scratching weirdness.

Right now I can think of two semi plausible explanations why the case is dropped that fit the publicly available evidence. I've stepped away from following this for a bit, so feel free to correct me if I'm missing anything newer.

1) Its being dropped for reasons unrelated to the prosecutor's certainty that Jussie perpetrated a hoax. This might be some political or image concern. It might be some police or evidence handling misconduct which would make CPD look bad and make it not worth prosecuting.

2) New information has come to light which casts doubt on the brother's story. A few posters here are suggesting that the brothers apparent ability to beat the cheap out of Smollett means that Smollett must have been a willing co-conspirator. It seems to me that the brothers may have had a plan that involved scaring Smollett but not necessarily injuring him. It would be a weird motivation, but so is just about every other motivation. Off the top of my head, they could have been trying to scare him into hiring them as bodyguards. We know he didn't have one and that they would fit the role well. Or they might have been laying the groundwork with the letter and the attack for some third action which they'd then pin on the made up white supremacists. I think evidence that the brothers rather than Jussie created the letter would weigh towards this option (unless I missed some stronger evidence which ties Jussie to the letter. In which case, I'd expect some federal charges)

I'd be interested to hear other theories for why the case might be dropped at this stage.
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The FBI called and said that they couldn't ID the letter (I haven't been paying much attention so maybe they did?) and the Police were suddenly wasting too much time on a (now) small potatoes case.
 
Thermal said:
Tbf, is there any interpretation of events that is not bizzare? From the Worlds Most Incompetent Hoax Attempt to CPD trumping up charges to the Osundario's covering their own crimes with a goofy story, there isn't much to make one version more believable than the others.

Smollett pled not guilty. If there was a strong case against him, bad move (as opposed to a plea). In light of how off the wall the whole ordeal is, maybe we are putting too much credibility on the Osundario's version?
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No "talentless knob tries idiotic thing to extend career " is pretty run of the mill. I don't think many reasonable foods are thinking he didn't do it at this point. And most reasonable folks knew this on like day 3.
 
Thermal said:
FTFY
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That is ******* disgusting. Completely balls to the wall disgusting.

I have nothing else to say other than I hate the fact society is so ****** that we no longer feel the need to dispense justice if someone is the right combination of famous and part of the correct groups.

I can't say it happened to me, but this is the **** that makes bigots of fence sitters.
 
How could this happen? What really happened?

The case is sealed?! Will the public ever see all the evidence, see the facts?

So who, and what, are we to believe, if the underlying facts can never be publicly known?
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Deferred prosecution agreement surrendering $10,000 and Smollett's attorney is still asserting that the attack happened. Boy I'd love to know what happened here, this result makes no sense.
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It makes perket major metro administration of justice sense.

Prosecuting Smollett would not benefit the local politico's or the local prosecutor's office.

San Francisco tanked the case against the individual who murdered Kate Steinle - not guilty of an overcharge of 1st degree murder (it wasn't in any fashion premeditated), guilty of felon in possession of a firearm.

San Mateo county allowed the actor that murdered my friend Julius Long 12-24-99 to plead to misdemeanor vehicular manslaughter and walk with less than 90 days in work furlough custody - meaning he served weekends and evenings in county.

Once you watch murderers walk, nothing is surprising.
 
sadhatter said:
That is ******* disgusting. Completely balls to the wall disgusting.

I have nothing else to say other than I hate the fact society is so ****** that we no longer feel the need to dispense justice if someone is the right combination of famous and part of the correct groups.

I can't say it happened to me, but this is the **** that makes bigots of fence sitters.
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Indeed.

This is total clown world, as far as I can ascertain.

I think strings were pulled, pressure was exerted, and I would wager there are probably some very angry cops in Chicago right now with strong opinions on this. Would love to get some good leaks from them.
 
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