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How are Americans not thrilled that they found nothing rising to the level of a prosecutable crime?

There are a few answers to address different aspects of this. First, of course, Mueller's probe did find quite a few things that rise to the level of a prosecutable crime. It's been the most successful of of its kind, in that respect, even. Second, when it comes to Trump, Trump was not going to be prosecuted regardless, given DOJ policy, so him not being charged means nearly nothing at all. Of more interest is what's going on with those like Trump Jr. and his Trump Tower meeting that was done specifically with intent that breaks the law, followed by his recitation of the lies he was directed to tell to Congress. Third, well... Barr provided only the barest of answers to the various questions at hand, under circumstances where it's hard not to take his selectiveness as anything other than a blatant attempt to protect Trump in exactly the way that he was specifically chosen to do.

If Trump actually didn't collude with foreign powers, GOOD! When what we've currently got is little more than bare assertion from a Trump toadie that that's the case, though, it's not particularly convincing. Even moreso when the evidence in the public sphere that points quite firmly to such happening remains completely unaddressed.

Man, you must be pissed at Obama for not doing anything.

At last check... He did do a few things. Looks like W.D. Clinger went into that more in detail though.

I was expecting more. A Congressional statement doesn’t do anything real. It would have changed nothing had McConnell signed off on it. Was that Obama’s best plan of response?

Out of order here, but... Several other measures than the congressional statement were referenced in the article.

I'm amused that you think issuing statements and saying something to Putin constitute doing something. Expelling some diplomats is something, but not much, certainly not enough to dissuade Russia.

You know what's strangely lacking from your list? Any attempt by the Obama administration to warn the Trump campaign about Russian activities. It's almost like they weren't actually worried about the possibility of Russia affecting the election, they only wanted an opportunity to nail Trump for doing something bad.

...Trump and campaign WAS warned, though? That's one of the big reasons that Trump's "joke" request to Russia isn't actually credibly a joke. And that's before getting to his clarification that it wasn't really a joke in an interview from shortly after saying it.

Yes. And anyone else who is should be disappointed by Obama's failures in that regard.

But I'm even more concerned by China's cyber attacks, which were far more severe and consequential, and which have gone unanswered. But they don't play into the anti-Trump narrative, so they don't get much attention even though they deserve more.

Mmm. There's been a somewhat longstanding issue there, as I understand it, though. There have been quite a few sectors in the US that have been rather slow to adapt and take proper precautions, last I heard, including the military. It's one of the issues that certainly does deserve more attention, albeit relatively quiet attention. As plague311 pointed out, though, Trump's not only not ramped things up on that front, he's intentionally undermined the attempts to address the problems that were already in action. That's just one of the many strikes against him, in my opinion.

By this time tomorrow, the conventional wisdom will be that the Mueller report contains a smoking gun, and that Barr is covering it up.

Hmm? Among who?

The hilited prediction has a reasonable chance of being correct. IMO the important thing is for your described procedure to take place. The full unredacted support should be vetted by your congress.

I'm in agreement with this. That is the most important thing, to start with. With that said, though... there's quite a bit that the public likely needs to be informed of, at this point, to address much of the information already floating around.

Does McConnell even know what is actually in the report?

Some of the stuff that's reasonably likely to be addressed a bit, like the NRA stuff, is fairly certain to be rather damning to the Republican Party. Fear of that alone would be enough for him to want to block it, I think.

"I would release it but I'm under audit."

Perhaps better said as "If I released it, I would be under audit."
 
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Wait? The Report is done and now the GOP don't want it released? Must be pretty damning of Trump.
 
Wait? The Report is done and now the GOP don't want it released? Must be pretty damning of Trump.

They just don't want to further embarrass "Liberals" (everyone that isn't a Trump loyalist) with a report that completely exonerates Trump, his family, Manafort, Flynn and the rest................
 
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The Mainstream Media is under fire and being scorned all over the World as being corrupt and FAKE. For two years they pushed the Russian Collusion Delusion when they always knew there was No Collusion. They truly are the Enemy of the People and the Real Opposition Party!
 
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Whatever this report says, here’s what I know: when I was at Cambridge Analytica, the company hired known Russian agents, had data researchers in St Petersburg, tested US voter opinion on Putin’s leadership, and hired hackers from Russia - all while Bannon was in charge.

That's the former director of research for Cambridge Analytica speaking.
 
Presumably the usual USA process is to start another investigation since this one didn't return the right result?
 
...the "people of the United States"...I become increasingly disinterested in their will being followed and in fact become quite keen on increasing measures for voter suppression and disenfranchisement...

...I just want them to live their meaningful lives that matter a lot, primarily outside of traditionally white countries. A few visitors are fine.

I give you points for at least being honest.

The problem is, most people reject the kind of 'world' you want -- asides from moral and ethical grounds -- because it would be unworkable. A world with rigid racial barriers enforced by law. Sounds ghastly. And it would radically change what this country, the U.S., stands for. The Founding Fathers agreed all men are created equal. Succeeding generations have come to believe that means all men not just white men and women too. The world is a big place and we all live in it. Most people -- not all, to be sure -- really do have some notion of brotherhood and tolerance. And that's the name of that tune. ;)
 
Presumably the usual USA process is to start another investigation since this one didn't return the right result?

We won't know until we see it, will we?

Barr's summary is pretty evasive, but mentions possible cases of Collude and Obstruction we aren't even aware of yet.
Also, no need to start another investigation until the current 19 are done.
 
Presumably the usual USA process is to start another investigation since this one didn't return the right result?

No, there is no such Hillary Rule, although I can understand how you got that impression.

This is more like, we may need an investigation to find out what's actually in the Mueller report.
 
Wait? The Report is done and now the GOP don't want it released? Must be pretty damning of Trump.

I'm going with useful idiot that knowingly played into Russia interference in the election rather than report Russia's crimes and obstructed justice to cover that up.
 

I think that is pretty obvious. Mueller is an institution man, and very conservative (not speaking politically here). I very much doubt he sees it as his proper place to indict a president. Impeachment is the appropriate venue for such an action. At the very least, Congress should be given the full report promptly so they can execute their duty as they see fit with the the best available information.

Even Ken Starr, hatchet-man and political hack, ultimately only made recommendations to Congress. That is the proper authority on such matters.
 
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