Mueller Investigation pt5

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Toontown said:
It was always unreasonable to expect any of the Trump family to be indicted. An airtight case would be the minimum requirement before the DOJ would indict any of the Trump inner circle.

It should be common knowledge by now that the DOJ will not indict a sitting president. The responsibility of dealing with a criminal president is left to congress.

It should also be common knowledge that congress will not act against the president without a broad public consensus in favor of congressional action.

None of which means there was no Trump involvement in a conspiracy to defraud the United States. The causes for suspicion continue to exist. In a perfect universe, every crime would be uncovered and charged, and every criminal would be convicted. Not in this universe.
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You don't know state charges aren't pending.
 
Seeing lots of tweets trying to work out whether there are actually sealed indictments, even though we know Mueller won't be actually issuing/filing any more indictments.
 
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Read this, cultists: Mueller-Dämmerung

And then start to ****** come up with some real political program that has something substance to actually beat Trump the next time. Support people who deliver like Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang and don't hope that some creepy old establishment fraud like Uncle Joe will resurrect the former status quo with his toxic smile. Get your **** together.
 
Belz... said:
Ah, the constant prattling of people who understand nothing of the world...



Who are you talking to? No one idolises Mueller or his work. At best you have people who show respect for his career.

On the other hand, everything you post is from Russia, so...
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Well Russia is in charge. Might as well go straight to the source.
 
portlandatheist said:
Thanks for the info. I find it so annoying he chooses to use twitter as his platform. Whatever happened to the days people kept blogs?
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He addressed this a couple of years ago. He hates twitter and would much rather write blog posts, but his goal is to disseminate and contextualise information and if he was using a blog in this day and age he'd get a fraction of the readers.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
He addressed this a couple of years ago. He hates twitter and would much rather write blog posts, but his goal is to disseminate and contextualise information and if he was using a blog in this day and age he'd get a fraction of the readers.
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Yet another sacrifice he has made for the good of the people. Such an admirable and humble man.
 
portlandatheist said:
Thanks for the info. I find it so annoying he chooses to use twitter as his platform. Whatever happened to the days people kept blogs?
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I read some of it. Frankly, any analysis that doesn't begin with the admission that this is not a positive development for those who think he is guilty is just as delusional as Republicans not admitting all the convictions around trump hurts trump.
 
So what's the narrative control going to hang on to now?

Mueller is done. That is the close of the desperate Hail-Mary pass to unseat a stitting president with vague handwaving about "Russian Collusion".

The Democrats are so fixated on Trump Hysteria that they STILL have not re-approached Labor, their once core constituency. Instead, it's insult miners and factory workers, transportation workers etc. and hand them over to Trump.

So yes, of course the Democratic leadership will pick up this dead horse and continue beating it right up to the election in a kind of Baghdad Bob "No American Troops in the City" clown fest. In the House.

But Trump holds the declassification power for those FISA warrants, he has already seen them if he felt like looking. They cannot stop him. The crimes the FBI and CIA committed, and what that implies for Obama, no - I don't see Trump doing that.

He would already have jailed Hillary. But too many people Trump would like to use for our Israel First and Make Israel Great Again, Make Saudi Great Again programs would be going to jail.

He wouldn't be able to overthrow tin pot dictators, who he views as such anyway,without their help. As a modern day James Monroe. Probably looks at himself that way.
 
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AlaskaBushPilot said:
So what's the narrative control going to hang on to now?

Mueller is done. That is the close of the desperate Hail-Mary pass to unseat a stitting president with vague handwaving about "Russian Collusion".
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Nothing vague about it. There was a Russian influence scheme, the president was exceptionally friendly, and multiple hidden efforts to contact the Russians. That is enough for an investigation.
 
CapelDodger said:
The investigation was set up : it obviously didn't set out to do anything...
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Agree. Given the events that took place, given the way Trump behaved, the matter had to be investigated. I'm still not convinced there weren't some contacts between Trump and the Russians. That there wasn't at least some implicit quid pro quo. Too many people who were close to Donnie pleaded guilty and are headed for prison for me to believe there was nothing there. It just couldn't be proved. Maybe someday we'll know for sure. ;)
 
Childlike Empress said:
Read this, cultists: Mueller-Dämmerung

And then start to ****** come up with some real political program that has something substance to actually beat Trump the next time. Support people who deliver like Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang and don't hope that some creepy old establishment fraud like Uncle Joe will resurrect the former status quo with his toxic smile. Get your **** together.
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No thanks.
 
I am glad the investigation is over, though. No one, not even ol' Dirt Bag himself, deserves to have something like this hanging over their heads for close to two years.
 
Reports are that Trump has had a 'heavy staff presence", including his lawyers, around him the last few day in Mar a Lago. Not that they were circling the wagons, right? For someone who "has done absolutely nothing wrong", Trump sure gives a damn fine imitation of someone who was scared ***less the last couple years.

I've never thought that Trump would be indicted on anything Russia related. I don't think he colluded with Russia. I do think he admires Putin because he sees a kindred spirit in him and sucks up to him. Ditto Kim, Duterte, and Bolsonaro.

If Trump is ever charged with an actual crime, it's going to be something financial: fraud, money laundering, etc.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Read this, cultists: Mueller-Dämmerung
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Projection highlighted in red.

What are you getting all excited about? Nothing has changed. Today is just like yesterday. There was never any chance that the Trump family would be seized by the "deep state" and hauled off to Gitmo the moment the report hit the AG's desk.

The DOJ still does not indict sitting presidents.

The real Deep State still resides in Russia, and comes as naturally to them as breathing.

The reading material you provide us is still as bogus as a North Korean promise.

It is still true that (if) there really was a "deep state" here, Trump would have been in Gitmo a long time ago.

And finally, you continue to be incapable of understanding why no "deep state" exists here.
 
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