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Trial date set for Amber Guyger in Botham Jean murder case

Dallas News said:
Former Dallas police Officer Amber Guyger had a court date Monday but the only movement in the case happened outside the courtroom.

Her murder trial was set Monday for Aug. 12 -- less than a year since Guyger shot and killed Botham Jean in his own apartment. She was off-duty but still in uniform when she shot Jean once in the chest.

Guyger told law enforcement she confused Jean's apartment with her own and thought he was a burglar. She said his door was unlocked and ajar, though Jean's family has questioned that account.

Murder cases in Dallas County usually take more than a year to go to trial. It's also common for trials to be delayed.

Also on Monday, State District Judge Tammy Kemp signed a subpoena requested by prosecutors for records related to any cruises Guyger took on Royal Caribbean between Sept. 23 to March 4...
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https://www.dallasnews.com/news/cri...-even-nothing-happens-botham-jean-murder-case


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To see if she was talking about the case on the cruise ship?

This seems unusual
 
Or was she ordered not to leave the state?
But the murder happened in early 2019 right?
 
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Or was she ordered not to leave the state?
But the murder happened in early 2019 right?
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The murder either happened on Sept 6 2018 or we plotted it here for four months before it happened.

How stupid would you have to be to go on a cruise when you're on conditional release?

ETA: Can't find a source I completely trust but the order for Guyger not to travel may not have happened until November.
 
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wonder if they are looking to see if she got on the wrong cruise ship. :rolleyes:
 
Ohh.
They are going to get her locked up until the trial aren't they?
 
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Ohh.
They are going to get her locked up until the trial aren't they?
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She would have been able to travel on cruise ship prior to November 30th 2018 because she wasn't restricted to Texas and she still possessed her passport.

After November 30th 2018 she cannot leave Texas without permission, and she wouldn't have a passport for any international travel either.
 
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William Parcher said:
She would have been able to travel on cruise ship prior to November 30th 2018 because she wasn't restricted to Texas and she still possessed her passport.

After November 30th 2018 she cannot leave Texas without permission, and she wouldn't have a passport for any international travel either.
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She was initially charged with manslaughter and released on $300K bond. Wouldn't travel restrictions have been imposed then? That is very likely why the prosecutor wants her travel records as far back as Sept. 23. https://newsone.com/3848852/amber-guyger-cruise-subpoena/
 
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She was initially charged with manslaughter and released on $300K bond. Wouldn't travel restrictions have been imposed then? That is very likely why the prosecutor wants her travel records as far back as Sept. 23. https://newsone.com/3848852/amber-guyger-cruise-subpoena/
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I can't answer why it didn't happen previously.

It was on November 30th that she was forced to surrender her passport and forbidden from travelling out of state. This is in the link I provided.
 
I don't see how they could restrict her travel before any indictment which didn't happen until December 1
 
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I don't see how they could restrict her travel before any indictment which didn't happen until December 1
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She was arrested, charged and released on $300K bond in September. That would be plenty of reason to restrict her travel, and would usually be a condition of release.
 
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She was arrested, charged and released on $300K bond in September. That would be plenty of reason to restrict her travel, and would usually be a condition of release.
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Her arrest back then was for manslaughter, not murder. Maybe that makes a difference.
 
William Parcher said:
Her arrest back then was for manslaughter, not murder. Maybe that makes a difference.
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Terms are set by the judge. I guess it's possible that the judge thought restrictions weren't necessary. But people are sitting in jail without bail for lesser charges than manslaughter.
 
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I don't see how they could restrict her travel before any indictment which didn't happen until December 1
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Guyger was briefly jailed on September 9th and only released because she able to meet the bail. I'm not a lawyer but it seems to me that if they could throw her in jail at that time then they could have also restricted her travel at that time. I can't find anything that says any judge actually did restrict her travel at that time though.

The timing on the records they are looking for is probably driven by the day she was fired. They can probably account for her time up to that point.
 
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