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Not so much a "magic money tree," as a "magic brown envelope handed over on platform 3 of Victoria station...."
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Not so much a "magic money tree," as a "magic brown envelope handed over on platform 3 of Victoria station...."
P.J. Denyer
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It's 2:50, I'm watching the petition tally real time to see if it breaks tye million by 3 o'clock.
Eta: And the forum timestamp is off by five minutes?
Eta: And the forum timestamp is off by five minutes?
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P.J. Denyer
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Bumptious twat.
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Well, I thought it was ruled that she can't bring the same deal a third time? That's why I wrote it's apparently impossible that what Merkel said will happen - agreeing to the deal before next Friday.
The speaker has ruled that is the case but there are several "outs" available to the government which would allow them to bring the deal back for a vote including
- Voting to overrule the speaker
- Asking the queen to close the current session of parliament
Looking at the latest soundbites:
- May will not countenance revoking Article 50
- Labour do not believe revoking Article 50 is necessary
- MPs are focused on what happens after May's deal is rejected again
- The EU want a short delay
All of the above leads me to think that my prediction that a no-deal is a certainty is right .
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which the majority of Conservatives will consider a victory and Theresa May will be perfectly happy with, so long as she's able to continue to be PM.
- May will not countenance revoking Article 50
- Labour do not believe revoking Article 50 is necessary
- MPs are focused on what happens after May's deal is rejected again
- The EU want a short delay
All of the above leads me to think that my prediction that a no-deal is a certainty is right .
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which the majority of Conservatives will consider a victory and Theresa May will be perfectly happy with, so long as she's able to continue to be PM.
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That turned out to be less of a race against the clock than I had anticipated!
It was up to just shy of 1.1 million but seems to have crashed again:
The BBC article on the petition has comments enabled, a good many people writing in to say they tried to sign but the site was down or they have not gotten confirmatory emails in the usual amount of time required.
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I think no deal has been certain for a long time. May is determined that we will leave no matter what, but there are a lot of different ways to leave and each Leaver wants a different one. Add to that the fact that leaving will necessarily be worse than staying, and that the EU wants our leaving to be the best it can be for the EU rather than being required to go out of its way to give us everything we want without consequence, and it's no wonder that nobody can agree to a deal.
Since parliament have ruled out May's deal, Bercow has ruled out voting on it for a third time, the EU have ruled out making a new deal, the EU won't grant an extension without a deal in place, and parliament has ruled out leaving with no deal, the only two options realistically left are to have a second referendum (which the EU have said they will grant an extension for, although which carries the very real risk of Leave winning again), or to just cancel the whole thing and pretend it never happened. There's no way either of those will happen, though. Not with May and Corbyn in charge.
So on we will blunder until we crash out with no deal as a default.
The only extremely faint glimmer of hope is that May resigns or is pushed out and someone more sensible takes the reins. I'm not going to hold my breath for that, though.
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As summarized by article on The Independent:
He'll meet with Hamas and the IRA – but a coffee with Chuka Umunna is a step too far for Jeremy Corbyn
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Is there no consideration given to the possible benefits of meeting with each of the listed parties?
He may consider that the possible benefit of meeting with Umunna is not worth it but that holding his nose and talking to the other listed parties might save lives.
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A sane PM?
An opposition that's looking out for the country, not it's own interests?
Intervention by Cthulu?
That's just crazy talk.
I wonder if she got infected with something when she held Trump's hand that time? Could explain why Melania is so reluctant to do it (she wears ultra-thin latex gloves, but not everybody knows that)
I heard a certain David Davies in an interview a day or 2 ago. And he mentioned that much of the problems were caused by the UK government not being tough enough at the start of the negotiations.
My mouth has still not closed.
For non-UK folk, David Davies was put in charge of the negotiations at the start....
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David David was Brexit secretary, David Davies is my local waste of oxygen.
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Throat sweet?
P.J. Denyer
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It's back up and currently at about 1,201,000 signatures after a day. For context, a similar partition calling for no-deal that's been going for five months or so and has 375,000 signatures (that's rounding up btw).
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