Would sort of conflict with his earlier approach of "who needs precedents anyway".
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Would sort of conflict with his earlier approach of "who needs precedents anyway".
dudalb
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Rees Mogg is like every sterotype of an aristocratic English Villian that Hollywood has ever done.
quadraginta
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To keep it in the spirit of Parliament it would be sans serif ... but with all those little squiggles and tails on the ends of the letters.
And if you will forgive an American offering an opinion, Nigel Farage appears to me to be the stereotype of a classic English twit.
EU has two choices: allow an extension until the end of June, or allow a long extension of over a year, to allow for a general election or a referendum (or both). It became clear yesterday the deal can not be decided upon again in the House of Commons and Parliament stated it doesn't want a no deal.
The only remaining options are:
1. renegotiating the deal enough to be materially different, this option exists only in theory as EU already ruled that out plus there isn't enough time
2. referendum for the deal, this requires an extension of about a year at least
3. a new general election, this too would require an extension of at least one year
A sensible approach for the EU would be to offer an extension of four years. A delay this long ensures sufficient time to run a referendum if UK wants one, it also ensures at least one general election will be held in the meantime so the deal can be rerun through the parliament and hopefully pass and even after all that it still leaves enough time to renegotiate the deal entirely. It also allows UK to contest the European Elections and have their MEPs run the full term (or thereabout), limiting any problems with legality and representation.
It is possible to renegotiate the deal, if UK lets go of some self-imposed red lines. Expect any new deal to be notably worse for the UK than this one, but a different deal may still be possible - it just turns the UK into a colony of the EU, rather than a priviledged member.
If Brexit is extended by several years I expect there will be none in the end.
McHrozni
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Norman Alexander
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Seconded!
Pixel42
Schrödinger's cat
One way to make the deal different enough to be voted on again would be to include a commitment to hold a referendum before going ahead with it. The EU would certainly agree an extension for that.
angrysoba
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Yeah, the second best option is gone. So it is all or nothing for both sides now.
SezMe
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From that link:
Q: How many miles did he [Farage] actually do? Anyone know?
A: Probably about 50 metres.
and
A: How far was it to the first pub?
At least the Brits haven't lost their sense of humor.
SezMe
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Indeed. The Brexiteers surely know this so won't they act to prevent such a long extension? Do they have sufficient power to do so?
(Pardon a Yank's ignorance of British politics.)
Dave Rogers
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Dave Rogers
Bandaged ice that stampedes inexpensively through
Oh, come on. I met lots of classic English twits in my time at Oxford, and I think you're slandering all of them.
Dave
P.J. Denyer
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It's been a long, strange journey...
P.J. Denyer
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Blunt crayon on padded wallpaper would be most appropriate.
P.J. Denyer
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It's kind of complicated, Farage is definitely rich and establishment, he went to a Eaton College school but the classic English twit is more obviously upper class (think Rees-Mogg) and we generally consider our twits to be oblivious but generally good natured (don't think Rees-Mogg). Farage is more of a spiv, in the ration book days that Brexiteers think so kindly of he'd have been trading on the Black Market.
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Please you are lucky to get into the 20th century, the 1950's was a socialist hellscape, have you seen the tax policy then????
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This seems a sensible and reasonable solution so nothing remotely like it has a chance of happening.
Well, that depends. EU has been reasonable and strategic throughout the fisasco. It can offer an extension of four years, even if UK doesn't ask for one. That or none at all, your pick.
Short of a coup the extension ensures a general election in the meantime, giving the UK at least one certain shot at resolving the issue.
May can then spend the next three years procastrinating and the next government faces the exact same problems as this one - but with a lot wiser electorate and perhaps a saner Labour party too. Corbyn may be ousted in the meantime and replaced with someone with an IQ of a pot plant (or just a pot plant). That alone should be enough to solve the issue of Brexit for a generation.
Here's the kicker - it also allows Theresa May many shots at resolving the issue her way. Jacob Ress-Mogg and the other goblins get shafted, but she can pin the blame on them - it was their votes that struck down the only possible Brext after all.
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The Brexiteers need do nothing. At the moment the state of the law in the UK is very clear, we leave the EU on 29th March. Parliament passed that legislation 2 years ago so to stop the UK leaving the EU will require Parliment to agree to alter the law.
I think at the moment the hard Brexiters have the upper hand as it will take positive action to stop us leaving. And as has been shown this lot can't do anything.
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