Mueller Investigation pt5

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Delphic Oracle said:
What a grammatical catastrophe that is. I'm honestly not sure what it says.
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The joys of a twitter character limit.

I think it's that CNN has an April 2018 email that dangled a pardon for Cohen - or at least told Cohen that he had "friends in high places"
 
theprestige said:
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the mechanics of this. CS reposts Trump's twitter feed so that people will see it. He has to repost, because people aren't looking at the twitter feed itself. People aren't looking at the feed because they find it unpleasant to look at. People are grateful to CS for showing it to them anyway.
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Or, certain Trump supporters are annoyed to see the Tweets in this thread because they'd rather not have to see them.
 
Trump Tweets

“Double Standard - Former FBI lawyer (Lisa Page) admits being told to go easy on Clinton.” Very unfair!
@FoxNews

“The Lisa Page (FBI) transcript also confirms earlier reporting that Page testified Russian Collusion was still unproven when Special Counsel Robert Mueller was appointed.” Catherine Herridge,
@FoxNews
In other words they appointed someone when there was (and is) no crime. Bad!
 
Trump Tweets

I agree with Rand Paul. This is a total disgrace and should NEVER happen to another President!

Senator Rand Paul
@RandPaul
This deserves more attention! FBI Mistress, Lisa Page, confirmed to House Judiciary, there was an anti-Trump Insurance Policy and it's the fake Russian investigation! She admits there was almost no evidence on collusion, yet they continued with WITCH HUNT!
 
theprestige said:
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the mechanics of this. CS reposts Trump's twitter feed so that people will see it. He has to repost, because people aren't looking at the twitter feed itself. People aren't looking at the feed because they find it unpleasant to look at. People are grateful to CS for showing it to them anyway.
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I don't have Twitter at all. CS is taking one for the team.
 
I likewise don't have twitter.

I do have access via the web, but I'd have to check multiple times per day to find any updates. Such is too high a price to pay for know the current POTUS nonsense.

Thus, I appreciate not having to see it repeatedly.

Captain_Swoop has my undying gratitude.

I would contribute to a Captain_Swoop GoFundMe.
 
theprestige said:
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the mechanics of this. CS reposts Trump's twitter feed so that people will see it. He has to repost, because people aren't looking at the twitter feed itself. People aren't looking at the feed because they find it unpleasant to look at. People are grateful to CS for showing it to them anyway.
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Maybe you can wrap your head around this:

In 2016 my name and email account were hijacked by A Trump troll to create a bogus Twitter account to bombard Twitter with Trump lies and indoctrination. Twitter deactivated the account. I discovered the hijack when I tried to open a Twitter acount and was unable to do so, because of some goddamn Trump troll.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
“The Lisa Page (FBI) transcript also confirms earlier reporting that Page testified Russian Collusion was still unproven when Special Counsel Robert Mueller was appointed.”
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This really highlights the stupidity. If it were proven, there would be no need to investigate it.
 
Trump Tweets

“Democrats are frantic to throw something else at the President. That’s why you saw those 81 subpoenas. It’s ridiculous. Just because your still upset over an election that happened 2 1/2 years ago, you should not be allowed to ruin people’s lives like this.” Lara Trump, @FoxNews
 
No one seems to have posted the details of Manafort's sentencing. This is from the New York Times:
A federal judge on Wednesday nearly doubled the prison sentence of President Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, to seven and a half years, denouncing him as a man who “spent a significant portion of his career gaming the system.” Minutes later, the Manhattan district attorney filed a raft of state criminal charges, including mortgage fraud, that could ensure that Mr. Manafort remains behind bars even if the president decides — as he has appeared to hint — to pardon Mr. Manafort for his crimes. Convictions for state crimes are not subject to federal pardons.

Ever since his initial bail hearing, [Judge Amy Berman Jackson of United States District Court in Washington] said, he had misled her and the prosecutors, part of what she called his determined efforts to obscure the facts. Even on his sentencing day, she implied, he appeared to be making a play for a presidential pardon by wrongly suggesting that he was merely the victim of overzealous prosecutors who had hoped to prove that the Trump campaign had conspired with the Russian government to tilt the 2016 election. Link
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Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

“Democrats are frantic to throw something else at the President. That’s why you saw those 81 subpoenas. It’s ridiculous. Just because your still upset over an election that happened 2 1/2 years ago, you should not be allowed to ruin people’s lives like this.” Lara Trump, @FoxNews
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Now these are the sorts of Tweets that get Trump, the president, motivated to send out his Tweets.

In fact, if 50 stupid, idiotic, lying, Trump supporting news commentators (Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter, etc.) actually told Trump to jump off a bridge via Tweets, then I expect that Trump would quickly jump off of that bridge in order to placate them.
 
Crossbow said:
Now these are the sorts of Tweets that get Trump, the president, motivated to send out his Tweets.

In fact, if 50 stupid, idiotic, lying, Trump supporting news commentators (Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter, etc.) actually told Trump to jump off a bridge via Tweets, then I expect that Trump would quickly jump off of that bridge in order to placate them.
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Only if it was a very, very low bridge.

Trump is fundamentally a coward, and his sense of self-preservation would override anything which might cause him personal injury.
 
newyorkguy said:
No one seems to have posted the details of Manafort's sentencing. This is from the New York Times:
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This all got me to thinking (I know, why start now?) of a hypothetical.

If Trump pardoned Manafort tomorrow, would NY arrest and incarcerate Manafort denying him bail because he had been convicted of witness tampering? And would they send him to Rikers to await trial?
 
quadraginta said:
In fact, if 50 stupid, idiotic, lying, Trump supporting news commentators (Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter, etc.) actually told Trump to jump off a bridge via Tweets, then I expect that Trump would quickly jump off of that bridge in order to placate them.
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Only if it was a very, very low bridge.
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And a very short one, since he can't walk very far with his bone spurs.

Or is he allowed to drive his golf cart onto the bridge to find a jumping spot?
Trump is fundamentally a coward, and his sense of self-preservation would override anything which might cause him personal injury.
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How can you say he's a coward? He claimed that he would personally rush into a building with an active shooter to save lives! If making boastful claims like that isn't a sign of bravery, what is?

http://fortune.com/2018/02/26/trump-stoneman-shooter/

And don't forget, he knows the horrors of war. No, he didn't serve in Vietnam, but he said dating women was like his "own personal vietnam" because of the chance of getting diseases.

https://people.com/politics/trump-b...nas-are-landmines-it-was-my-personal-vietnam/
 
Segnosaur said:
And a very short one, since he can't walk very far with his bone spurs.
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And it musn't have stairs on it.

And don't forget, he knows the horrors of war. No, he didn't serve in Vietnam, but he said dating women was like his "own personal vietnam" because of the chance of getting diseases.
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He also thinks that having a lot of money inherited from his dad is a sacrifice he's made.
 
acbytesla said:
This all got me to thinking (I know, why start now?) of a hypothetical.

If Trump pardoned Manafort tomorrow, would NY arrest and incarcerate Manafort denying him bail because he had been convicted of witness tampering? And would they send him to Rikers to await trial?
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Yes. When the NY charges were filed, Seth Abramson speculated it was precisely because they felt they couldn't afford a window for a Manafort pardon + skipping the country.

[ETA] Well, I don't know about Rikers, but they certainly wouldn't assign him bail.
 
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Segnosaur said:
And a very short one, since he can't walk very far with his bone spurs.

Or is he allowed to drive his golf cart onto the bridge to find a jumping spot?

How can you say he's a coward? He claimed that he would personally rush into a building with an active shooter to save lives! If making boastful claims like that isn't a sign of bravery, what is?

http://fortune.com/2018/02/26/trump-stoneman-shooter/

And don't forget, he knows the horrors of war. No, he didn't serve in Vietnam, but he said dating women was like his "own personal vietnam" because of the chance of getting diseases.

https://people.com/politics/trump-b...nas-are-landmines-it-was-my-personal-vietnam/
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Only the best women! (had to be said)
 
acbytesla said:
This all got me to thinking (I know, why start now?) of a hypothetical.

If Trump pardoned Manafort tomorrow, would NY arrest and incarcerate Manafort denying him bail because he had been convicted of witness tampering? And would they send him to Rikers to await trial?
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Well, he has been indicted so he is subject to arrest and detainment now. At the moment, he is a prisoner of the Feds so he is in their jurisdiction, but if he were pardoned, then NY police will be waiting outside the federal prison he is going to, and he will likely be cuffed and taken to New York for arraignment. I would expect him to be remanded in custody because he is both a flight risk, and has a history of witness tampering and destruction of documentary evidence. Rikers is a possibility.



Manafort is in for a very tough next few years... good job too. He's a scumbag.
 
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