Michael Cohen's Congressional testimony

smartcooky said:
You see, TBD thinks that Cohen told the truth the first time he testified before Congress, and then, for some reason, even though he was telling the truth, he said that he actually lied, and got charged for lies he didn't actually tell because they were not lies, they were truths. Now, he's actually telling the truth and TBD thinks he's lying because both can't be the truth, and he prefers to believe whatever true lies fit his personal truths. Got that?.

And he thinks leftists jump through hoops?
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The logic is beyond bizarre If you think about it. Cohen lies to Congress and then pleads guilty to lying to Congress, sentenced to prison for lying to Congress and then returns to Congress to lie again? Yeah...sure
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
I got it, but more importantly, this clearly lets Trump off the hook for any suggestion of telling Cohen to lie to Congress. Impeachment dreams are shattered.

How is he helping the Democrats again?

Chris B.
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It was interesting listening to Joyce Vance and Barb McQuade (both former prosecutors) and Chuck Rosenberg (former Assistant Director of the DEA) a few nights ago where they were talking about how Federal Prosecutors have been able to gain convictions of mob bosses on the testimony of cooperating witnesses such as flipped underlings.

In order to prosecute and convict a superior who has ordered a subordinate to commit a crime, they do not have to find a direct link such as a written memo or an audio recording of the order. In fact, said Rosenberg, such direct evidence is hardly ever found because it generally does not exist. What prosecutors must do is show a pattern of behaviour. If Trump really has used this way of insulating himself, you can be sure that Cohen is not the only one he will have done it to. There are a number of others who are co-operating with Mueller and SDNY, all of whom may have done things or committed acts at the behest of Trump (Michael Flynn, Allen Weisselberg & Rick Gates for example)
 
I Am The Scum said:
Isn't TBD the one who, several months ago, claimed that lying to congress (or maybe investigators) was not a crime?
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Who cares?

dudalb said:
Paul Gosar, the GOP congressman who did the Liar lair pants on fire routine, also thinks that Charolttesville is the result of a left wing conspiracy.
Man ,that heat in Arizona does weird things to people....
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Wow, good catch! Even I didn't even remember that.

Did you get this from someone else? Cmon, it's okay, even I do that too every now and then. :D
 
smartcooky said:
You see, TBD thinks that Cohen told the truth the first time he testified before Congress, and then, for some reason, even though he was telling the truth, he said that he actually lied, and got charged for lies he didn't actually tell because they were not lies, they were truths. Now, he's actually telling the truth and TBD thinks he's lying because both can't be the truth, and he prefers to believe whatever true lies fit his personal truths. Got that?.
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Further, even though TBD believes Cohen was telling the truth the first time he testified before Congress, and therefore was wrongly convicted, he is still eager to use "Cohen is a convicted liar" as an argument for why Cohen is not credible. It's a delightful merry-go-round of illogic.
 
Checkmite said:
Further, even though TBD believes Cohen was telling the truth the first time he testified before Congress, and therefore was wrongly convicted, he is still eager to use "Cohen is a convicted liar" as an argument for why Cohen is not credible. It's a delightful merry-go-round of illogic.
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I didn't watch the entire testimony as of yet. But I did see a clip where Cohen said that not one single GOP Congressman asked about the substance of his testimony.
 
I don't see how anyone could talk to that guy for five minutes and not realize he's a gutter rat. That only recommends him to work for one kind of client, other gutter rats. Trump apologists should consider that when they try to character assassinate him. They're assassinating the character of the person Trump picked to represent him.
 
Checkmite said:
Further, even though TBD believes Cohen was telling the truth the first time he testified before Congress, and therefore was wrongly convicted, he is still eager to use "Cohen is a convicted liar" as an argument for why Cohen is not credible. It's a delightful merry-go-round of illogic.
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Our barking forumgoer would do well to remember that Trump is accused of doing things far more serious than returning a kettle damaged.
 
It was the best of hearings. It was the worst of hearings.

Cohen accused Trump of being a racist, a con man, and a cheat. Ummmm…….yeah. Tell us something we didn't know.

I can understand why someone would hold their nose, and look past the oozing pile of slime that is Donald Trump, and vote for him anyway because they like (most of) his policies, but I would hope that this testimony today would help convince people at least that he really is an oozing pile of slime. For some reason, there are still people who don't get that.


On the other hand, I was looking for the impeachable offense, and I didn't see it.
 
Meadmaker said:
It was the best of hearings. It was the worst of hearings.

Cohen accused Trump of being a racist, a con man, and a cheat. Ummmm…….yeah. Tell us something we didn't know.

I can understand why someone would hold their nose, and look past the oozing pile of slime that is Donald Trump, and vote for him anyway because they like (most of) his policies, but I would hope that this testimony today would help convince people at least that he really is an oozing pile of slime. For some reason, there are still people who don't get that.


On the other hand, I was looking for the impeachable offense, and I didn't see it.
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You're not going to see evidence of impeachable offences in an official public forum....... yet.
 
EventHorizon said:
That's this dude's MO. I once made a small error in a post and he called me a liar for it (I did respond with a correction). The detail I got wrong was so insignificant it didn't change the point of the post at all. But of course he ignored the rest of the post and instead focused on the one minor error. There's no point engaging him.
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It's not just him. Look no further than how the Green New Deal is dismissed based on the single, retracted line about paying those unwilling to work, in no less than a Trump tweet, weeks later.
 
Hey whats up in this thread?

-spittle soaked attacks

-defending a literal ******* monster

-"skeptics"

lolz
 
Meadmaker said:
On the other hand, I was looking for the impeachable offense, and I didn't see it.
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I dunno... every time anyone asked about Trump's tax evasion or hinted at insurance fraud, Cohen was very quick to throw Alan Weisselberg's name out. He didn't say "you really need to talk to Alan Weisselberg" outright or anything, but oh wait he said exactly that like half a dozen times.
 
Sideroxylon said:
Is his former employer also a literal monster?
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well his former employer spent the entire day trying to make history.

this literal lying **** spent the entire day pandering to ******* idiots

so cool question bro
 
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Meadmaker said:
It was the best of hearings. It was the worst of hearings.

Cohen accused Trump of being a racist, a con man, and a cheat. Ummmm…….yeah. Tell us something we didn't know.

I can understand why someone would hold their nose, and look past the oozing pile of slime that is Donald Trump, and vote for him anyway because they like (most of) his policies, but I would hope that this testimony today would help convince people at least that he really is an oozing pile of slime. For some reason, there are still people who don't get that.


On the other hand, I was looking for the impeachable offense, and I didn't see it.
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I'm watching the rerun because I missed a lot.

I missed this: Convicted Russian mobster Felix Sater had a rent free office on the 26th floor of Trump Tower, adjacent to Trump's offices.

Is this something we all have heard about that has a benign explanation?
 
smartcooky said:
You're not going to see evidence of impeachable offences in an official public forum....... yet.
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Yes, there is hope.


If anything does happen, I have a feeling that the Trump Foundation will be the source of it. The little affair with the picture isn't good enough to get him, but it's a safe bet that the whole enterprise was rotten to the core.
 
Beelzebuddy said:
I dunno... every time anyone asked about Trump's tax evasion or hinted at insurance fraud, Cohen was very quick to throw Alan Weisselberg's name out. He didn't say "you really need to talk to Alan Weisselberg" outright or anything, but oh wait he said exactly that like half a dozen times.
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Oooh. Missed that. I didn't watch live and I mostly did headline skimming. The major media outlets spent most of their time on the "zinger" sound bites, as they are wont to do.
 
Gaetz has apologized for intimidating a witness.

I’ve personally apologized to @MichaelCohen212 4 referencing his private family in the public square. Regardless of disagreements, family members should be off-limits from attacks from representatives, senators & presidents, including myself. Let’s leave the Cohen family alone.
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