Mueller Investigation pt5

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This is like the 3rd time the Mueller report "Will be released next week."

It's the Half Life 3 of political reports.
 
jimbob said:
If you claim that Trump lies, that means that you can't believe him if he incriminates himself.

Meanwhile, everyone lies, so if witnesses dispute anything Trump asserts about any meeting, it's just two competing claims and you can't base anything on it.
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Can you run through that again? I'm confused.

/s
 
JoeMorgue said:
In Trump's defense we can't trust Trump to tell the truth about what Trump is doing in regards to Trump.
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When Trump talks about Trump, I think he's referring to an imaginary friend who happens to also be named Trump, and who didn't collude with Russia and is a great and beloved president.

I'm not entirely being facetious.
 
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WilliamSeger said:
When Trump talks about Trump, I think he's referring to an imaginary friend who happens to also be named Trump, and who didn't collude with Russia and is a great and beloved president.

I'm not entirely being facetious.
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I've flip flopped on whether Trump is an odd case of a person with literally no personality only a projected persona or someone who's self identify is so fractured he's practically multiple people.

You could argue it either way.
 
JoeMorgue said:
I've flip flopped on whether Trump is an odd case of a person with literally no personality only a projected persona or someone who's self identify is so fractured he's practically multiple people.

You could argue it either way.
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The ghost writer of The Art of The Deal was pretty adamant that it was the first
 
jimbob said:
You don't know how it works.

Ponderingturtle will be able to educate her

If you claim that Trump lies, that means that you can't believe him if he incriminates himself.

Meanwhile, everyone lies, so if witnesses dispute anything Trump asserts about any meeting, it's just two competing claims and you can't base anything on it.
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Now I feel like Captain Yossarian.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Any legal eagles here that can answer a question? Should the AG decide not to turn the report over to Congress or make it public, is there anything the House could do to force it to happen?

Seems to me that making this report go away is Trump's best chance of surviving the scandal, so I expect intense pressure to be placed on this report not being seen.
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Not a legal eagle so I don't know. But obviously covering it up is going to be nothing but bad for Trump; and he's going to need a LOT of plumbers.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Any legal eagles here that can answer a question? Should the AG decide not to turn the report over to Congress or make it public, is there anything the House could do to force it to happen?
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I'm not an eagle, but I know Adam Schiff, Democrat of California who is the head of the House Intelligence Committee, has said that the House could always ask Mueller in to testify before them if the report wasn't released, or was too heavily redacted, etc.

But I wonder if the Justice Dept. has any means to prevent Mueller from testifying if doing so would in effect release the report or parts thereof that Justice didn't want released? Perhaps something after the fact, like firing a day before being vested in the retirement plan (maybe Mueller is already vested anyway)?

And, there's the issue of whether which part of the report is released to the public or to Congress, and behind closed doors of Congress or not.

Buy plenty of popcorn.
 
jimbob said:
But that's the way it works
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Is it? Not in my world. Just because Trump lies a lot does not mean there is isn't a logic to what he says. It would be false to say there isn't a clear way to see when he is telling the truth and when he is lying.
 
JoeMorgue said:
I've flip flopped on whether Trump is an odd case of a person with literally no personality only a projected persona or someone who's self identify is so fractured he's practically multiple people.
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From the start I've described Trump as an infantile personality, and nothing has changed my opinion. Trump has the emotional development of a normal 2-3 year old. Spoiled, perhaps, but within the bounds of normal. Something arrested his development at that point.


His sex-life, for instance, is masturbatory. Mail-order wives, the Playboy Mansion, porn-stars, glamour models, all associated with the sin of Onan, and of instant gratification. No shred of intimacy, because Trump is not capable of it. There is something very wrong with the man.


When Trump makes a move he gains immediate gratification from the image of it having resulted in a massive triumph. The disastrous actual results which develop over time do not erode the remembered joy of that rub-off. They just don't register with Trump. And because of that he projects a confidence that mesmerises certain resonating personality types.
 
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