horrifying attack on Jussie Smollett

[baron]

It is CWBChicago, but I post it for the info on the suspects, which is quite interesting for two people Jussie supposed fought off.

http://www.cwbchicago.com/2019/02/smollett-case-update-two-brothers-will.html

Just your typical white supremacist Trump supporters.

 

[applecorped]

Everyone in this thread...

 

[LTC8K6]

Not that MAGA, the other MAGA...

 

[LTC8K6]

Just your typical white supremacist Trump supporters.

I think I'd probably be laid out on the sidewalk for a while if one of those dudes was mad at me and sucker punched me in the face...

 

[LTC8K6]

https://twitter.com/CharlieDeMar/status/1096399914588868619


Charlie De Mar
‏Verified account @CharlieDeMar
35m35 minutes ago

NEW:This is the latest statement from #Chicago Police Spokesman.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dzcx5_kX0AQhNDE.jpg:large

 

[Thermal]

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/14/jussie-smollett-empire-attack-hoax/

Check out the ransacking the Chicago cops did on that apartment.

Sidebar: the cops seem to have kicked the doors in. I believe this is an apartment. Who pays for the damage under Illinois law?

If police knew the men were out of the country (picked them up at airport), were they within their rights to damage the property to search? This wasn't exactly a missing person or murder case, or any situation where time was that critical.

 

[The Big Dog]

pipe carrying Nigerians are a huge demographic for MAGA country!

 

[The Big Dog]

Sidebar: the cops seem to have kicked the doors in. I believe this is an apartment. Who pays for the damage under Illinois law?

If police knew the men were out of the country (picked them up at airport), were they within their rights to damage the property to search? This wasn't exactly a missing person or murder case, or any situation where time was that critical.

Yes, if they have a warrant.

 

[Thermal]

Yes, if they have a warrant.

If an apartment, wouldn't the police be obligated to contact the owner to have it opened?

 

[LTC8K6]

Sidebar: the cops seem to have kicked the doors in. I believe this is an apartment. Who pays for the damage under Illinois law?

If police knew the men were out of the country (picked them up at airport), were they within their rights to damage the property to search? This wasn't exactly a missing person or murder case, or any situation where time was that critical.

Yes.

If you look at the lists, you will see that they collected items labeled "proof of residency", to show that they busted down the correct door.

 

[LTC8K6]

pipe carrying Nigerians are a huge demographic for MAGA country!

Jussie is apparently really tough, though.

He claims to have fought off two very big and strong dudes by himself.

 

[The Big Dog]

If an apartment, wouldn't the police be obligated to contact the owner to have it opened?

No, not if they have a warrant.

 

[The Big Dog]

Jussie is tough, though.

He fought off two very big and strong dudes by himself.

It would not surprise me in the slightest if he beat them off repeatedly

 

[Thermal]

Yes.

If you look at the lists, you will see that they collected items labeled "proof of residency", to show that they busted down the correct door.

Seems like almost malicious damage, though. A phone call to the property manager and they could have been let in like any emergency maintenance worker.

 

[LTC8K6]

If an apartment, wouldn't the police be obligated to contact the owner to have it opened?

No, once they have credible info to convince a judge, and get a warrant, they are good to go.

Even if it's the wrong door, they are very unlikely to suffer any consequences.

They almost never allow you to open the door anyway, even if you are home.

They pretty much always break the door down within seconds of identifying themselves.

 

[LTC8K6]

Seems like almost malicious damage, though. A phone call to the property manager and they could have been let in like any emergency maintenance worker.

A woman was at home there and could have opened the door, but they generally don't allow that anyway.

 

[Mike!]

If an apartment, wouldn't the police be obligated to contact the owner to have it opened?

That would seem the courteous thing to do, but that also opens an opportunity for a, "heads up, me and the cops are on our way", if the landlord and tenant are on a friendly basis. If they want the element of surprise on their side, I'd guess it's a matter of showing up with a warrant in hand. "Knock knock, Avon calling... "

 

[William Parcher]

This wasn't exactly a missing person or murder case, or any situation where time was that critical.

This is a case of domestic terrorism.

#stopbreakingdoorsofterrorists

 

[Thermal]

That would seem the courteous thing to do, but that also opens an opportunity for a, "heads up, me and the cops are on our way", if the landlord and tenant are on a friendly basis. If they want the element of surprise on their side, I'd guess it's a matter of showing up with a warrant in hand. "Knock knock, Avon calling... "

Yeah, even flushing evidence and stuff. I guess I can see it now.

 

[Thermal]

This is a case of domestic terrorism.

#stopbreakingdoorsofterrorists

*owner's door, if apartment.

Can the owner charge the tenants for the damage, if found guilty? If innocent?