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horrifying attack on Jussie Smollett

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Thermal said:
....... He still has the cord around his neck..... 45 minutes later.....

....... left this cord around his neck the whole time?
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He probably assumed it was evidence, had DNA on it and possibly fingerprints, and wanted the police to collect it from where it was left. Or, possibly, he was unaware that it was there. The fact that he left evidence in situ shouldn't be taken as meaning that it wasn't evidence, or that it was faked evidence, or that there is something otherwise fishy with his story.
 
MikeG said:
He probably assumed it was evidence, had DNA on it and possibly fingerprints, and wanted the police to collect it from where it was left. Or, possibly, he was unaware that it was there. The fact that he left evidence in situ shouldn't be taken as meaning that it wasn't evidence, or that it was faked evidence, or that there is something otherwise fishy with his story.
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So he was very keen to present that evidence but less keen to present the evidence on his phone.
 
MikeG said:
He probably assumed it was evidence, had DNA on it and possibly fingerprints, and wanted the police to collect it from where it was left. Or, possibly, he was unaware that it was there. The fact that he left evidence in situ shouldn't be taken as meaning that it wasn't evidence, or that it was faked evidence, or that there is something otherwise fishy with his story.
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Yeah, "probably."

Which is why they waited 35 minutes to call the cops and he did not say anything to the security guards within a minute of the "attack."

He was leaving thing "in situ' as one does.
 
Apparently, Smollett is only off-camera for 60 seconds in the time that the other two people are in the vicinity. During that time, Smollett's clothes get what appears to be road salt on them, and the rope appears.

https://twitter.com/RobElgasABC7/status/1090817480124174336

EDIT: I should say, at the end of that time period, Smollett's clothes have road salt and the cord/rope is there.

That puts that attack occurring before this time period, as we see no sign of an attack during the time period.
 
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There should be footage of Smollett on the phone during this time period, but I do not see any mention of such footage.

Smollett would have to have been attacked well before the available footage, I think.

That would seem to rule out the other two people as having been involved or having seen anything.
 
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I find with cellphones that I cannot hear people in the background even if they are talking along with the caller. Maybe I hear sounds but they are always unintelligible. Something about cellphone technology seems to destroy the ability to discern background voices and sounds.

I can hear background people when it's an old-fashion landline and even can know who they are if I'm familiar with their voice.
 
alfaniner said:
The "rope" seems to be devolving to be a "cord". Regardless of that, if the item is a factor, it's possible he was trying to do a David Carradine, whether alone or with a partner, and it got out of hand.
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....outside?

At night?

In freezing conditions?
 
William Parcher said:
I find with cellphones that I cannot hear people in the background even if they are talking along with the caller. Maybe I hear sounds but they are always unintelligible. Something about cellphone technology seems to destroy the ability to discern background voices and sounds.

I can hear background people when it's an old-fashion landline and even can know who they are if I'm familiar with their voice.
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Did the manager call the police when he heard the attack over the phone?
 
MikeG said:
He probably assumed it was evidence, had DNA on it and possibly fingerprints, and wanted the police to collect it from where it was left. Or, possibly, he was unaware that it was there. The fact that he left evidence in situ shouldn't be taken as meaning that it wasn't evidence, or that it was faked evidence, or that there is something otherwise fishy with his story.
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Of course. He was either thinking very clearly and planning ahead, or he was oblivious to a rope around his neck. :rolleyes:
 
He dinged himself up before a concert, instead of cancelling the concert, he comes up with this story?

What were ticket sales like for this concert?

Was this concocted to drive sales for the show?
 
We had a girl freeze to death in a walk-in freezer a couple of years ago. She wandered in there from a hotel party.



https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...s-hotel-death-anniversary-20180906-story.html


It occurs to me that, no matter what the situation is, my snark and ill-informed musings can't help the situation. No matter what happened and where the blame lies, sympathy and empathy for Mr. Smollett is the best that I can offer.
 
The police say that the "rope" is clothesline and is straight out of the package. They said that the formation of a "noose" is debatable. IOW, some might describe it as a noose and others not.

AFAIK, a "hanging noose" is a specific kind of knot.
 
William Parcher said:
The police say that the "rope" is clothesline and is straight out of the package. They said that the formation of a "noose" is debatable. IOW, some might describe it as a noose and others not.

AFAIK, a "hanging noose" is a specific kind of knot.
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Does that say anything about the act of putting it around the throat of a victim?
 
Maybe Smollett never meant for the fake attack story to be told to police or the public. Maybe it was originally only to be told to the guy in the condo and then that would be the end of it.
 
MikeG said:
Does that say anything about the act of putting it around the throat of a victim?
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Not really.

It could inform that it wasn't found outside and then used on the neck. It could inform that the rope went straight from its package to the neck.
 
Drewbot said:
He dinged himself up before a concert, instead of cancelling the concert, he comes up with this story?

What were ticket sales like for this concert?

Was this concocted to drive sales for the show?
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Are there no depths to which you won't go? What is the mentality that assumes someone is lying, then makes up stupid scenarios to justify that assumption, then clutches about for more when the original stupid scenarios are demonstrated to be baseless? Is this nonsense (one of the most successful stage plays for a while, as I understand it, so yes, your nonsense is nonsense) being plucked out of your arse because the previous nonsense from the same location, involving scooters, drugs, remind me what else, has had no support from any reports or police statements, and would have done by now if there was anything it it?
 
William Parcher said:
Maybe Smollett never meant for the fake attack story to be told to police or the public. Maybe it was originally only to be told to the guy in the condo and then that would be the end of it.
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Has it crossed your mind for a second that it isn't a fake story?
 
MikeG said:
Has it crossed your mind for a second that it isn't a fake story?
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Constantly. But the critical thinking skeptic part of my brain is beating the crap out of the other part of my brain. It's all because of what has been reported.
 
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