malbui
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I found my install media for that a few months ago when I was looking for something else. Probably unreadable by now, though.
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I found my install media for that a few months ago when I was looking for something else. Probably unreadable by now, though.
Norman Alexander
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Same here!VMS, when downtime is not an option.
I am a VMS guru, first started on VMS in April 1982 (prior to that in the IBM world). I still make my living from VMS (though I will finally retire in 2020). It's done me well for the last ~37 years
And my room here has quite a number of Alphas
Norman Alexander
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Forget their password, then?
CORed
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But do you have anything at all that can actually read a 5.25" disk?
CORed
Penultimate Amazing
You mean they're trying to use the PC to RDP into itself? That doesn't work. You can do that with VNC servers and clients, but ,though it looks pretty cool, it's not useful (You get an effect much like being between two parallel mirrors, as the PC shows an image of it's display, showing an image of its display ...
Mongrel
Begging for Scraps
Depends what you're used to.
A lot of the "it's so easy to use" is predicated on the assumption that you've used something similar in the past and that the user experience has been improved since then, if you have no baseline of how to use the product then it's just a bunch of shiny icons.
catsmate
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Actually, yes. Several in fact.
Trebuchet
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My first experience with a Mac many years ago taught me that sometimes a word is worth a thousand pictures.
arthwollipot
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On the other hand, I may have told this story before. When I was in high school in 1986 there were two labs - an IBM lab filled with IBM clones, and a Mac lab filled with 512k and 800k Macintosh computers. Prior to this the only computer I had used regularly was a TRS-80.
One day I walked into the IBM lab, switched on a computer and was presented with this:
A:/_
I had no idea what to do. All the other kids appeared to be next door in the Mac lab. I switched it off again, walked out, went to the Mac lab, sat down and received a smiley face on screen. Someone there kindly copied their boot disk and a game, and I was off and running.
The Macs were a whole pile easier for me to use. I used them extensively over the course of the next two years.
Norman Alexander
Penultimate Amazing
Someone left a floppy in that PC??
arthwollipot
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Nope, and there was no-one there to give me one. This was before PCs had hard drives. You needed a boot disk.
Norman Alexander
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That's what I said. You would not have gotten a prompt without someone leaving a boot floppy in it.
arthwollipot
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I'm pretty sure it showed the A prompt when there was no disk in the drive, but you may be right. It was obvious when there was a disk in the Mac.That's what I said. You would not have gotten a prompt without someone leaving a boot floppy in it.
Trebuchet
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Less obvious was that you had to drag it to the trash to get it out.
I was a VAX user before either PC or Mac.
Wudang
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I learned to program on a Vax 11/780 in 1983. Then IBM's TSO/ISPF.
xterra
So far, so good...
I had the opposite experience. In the early 1980s, I was working as an IBM 360 computer operator. One of the administrators left a "thing" in the computer room, with pictures on the screen and captions under the pictures.
There was a keyboard and something else attached to the "thing." So being curious, I started typing and the captions changed. But nothing else happened, so I retyped the original caption, shrugged, and walked away.
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RecoveringYuppy
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A lot of people were baffled by Windows at first, it's really not obvious how to use it when you were seeing it for the first time. Doubly so if no one had told you about double clicking.
There's been a long standing rumor/UL in the computer world that Solitare (and before that the color matching game Reversi) were included in early versions of Windows to get users familiar with mouse moving, left and right clicking, clicking and dragging and all that stuff that is so second nature now.
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