Mueller Investigation pt4

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Chief Justice John Roberts on Sunday issued a temporary pause on an order holding an unnamed, foreign government-owned company in contempt over a mystery court case related to special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation.

The order puts on hold the contempt citation issued by a DC federal judge against the company related to a grand jury subpoena it received, but only long enough for the justices to decide whether they want to intervene in the case.

The company asked the Supreme Court to intervene after a federal appeals court ruling that ordered the company to comply with the subpoena, which required it to turn over "information" about its commercial activity in a criminal investigation. The Supreme Court action also paused fines the company was facing for every day of noncompliance.

The pause lasts until the court has time to review a response from the government due on or before December 31.
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Linky.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
I wonder if Trump thinks he's shutting down Mueller's investigation with the government shutdown?
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I'm sure he did, but someone probably said "y'know, this won't impede Mueller's investigation, don't you?" At which point he would say "why would you mention that? I didn't even think about the Russia investigation. No collusion!!"
 
Beelzebuddy said:
Because then the GOP would can the whole thing and respond to any further accusations with "Mueller did a 'full investigation' and didn't find anything!"
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I think you'll find that if this happened, the House would subpoena Mueller, all his Staff and all his witnesses (particularly Michael Cohen and Mike Flynn)

First question? "Mr Mueller, would you please tell us what was in your report"

Jerry Nadler (incoming Chair of the House Judiciary Committee) and Adam Schiff (incoming Chair of the House Intelligence Committee) have both indicated that they will do just that if Trump, any of the "yes" men he has appointed, or the GOP try any monkey business with the SCO or Mueller's report.

If Trump thinks things are bad now, wait until next year. Once the Dems get control of the House, Trump will have nowhere to run, nowhere to hide and no way out.
 
Stacyhs said:
True. Good point. But I do think that something is going to come out about Deutsche Bank and Trump.
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All I need to know. This is from 2017:
The giant German lender was hit with about $630 million in penalties on Tuesday over a $10 billion Russian money-laundering scheme that involved its Moscow, New York and London branches...The latest fines penalize Deutsche Bank (DB)'s failure to deal with a stock-trading scheme that enabled some of its clients in Russia to improperly move huge sums of money out of the country and into offshore accounts, according to regulators. Link
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Can we please start a pool on who is company A from country A?

I'll take VTB Bank (Russian-owned). Oleg Deripaska is trying to at least appear to divest from Rusal (Russian Aluminium) to try and evade sanctions and keep the company able to do business in the USA. VTB had loaned him a billion or so in 2017. Maybe Deripaska got a heads-up about sanctions from Flynn or Manifort as part of the Trump transition, which is why he was trying to get out ahead of the story with lobbying and appointing a new CEO. Manifort and Gates had worked for him before.

ETA - It's behind a paywall, but here's a great article at NYT. I think that you can read so many articles for free per month.

Two Capitals, One Russian Oligarch: How Oleg Deripaska Is Trying to Escape U.S. Sanctions
 
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carlitos said:
Can we please start a pool on who is company A from country A?

I'll take VTB Bank (Russian-owned). Oleg Deripaska is trying to at least appear to divest from Rusal (Russian Aluminium) to try and evade sanctions and keep the company able to do business in the USA. VTB had loaned him a billion or so in 2017. Maybe Deripaska got a heads-up about sanctions from Flynn or Manifort as part of the Trump transition, which is why he was trying to get out ahead of the story with lobbying and appointing a new CEO. Manifort and Gates had worked for him before.

ETA - It's behind a paywall, but here's a great article at NYT. I think that you can read so many articles for free per month.

Two Capitals, One Russian Oligarch: How Oleg Deripaska Is Trying to Escape U.S. Sanctions
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Rusal would have been my first guess, but they're not government-owned.
 
Trump, his minions and his blindly loyal and devoted disciples, have often claimed that The Steele Dossier is a completely made-up "fake document", that none of the information in it is true. Trump has constantly lied about how much was paid for it (figures he has used have ranged from $4m to $12.4m)

Well it seems that the dossier is in fact a very accurate document. This piece by Chuck Rosenberg, a former U.S. attorney, senior FBI official and chief of the DEA, and Sarah Grant, a Harvard Law student, former Marine with an MPhil in International Relations (Cambridge) and BS in International Relations (USNA) seems to have put the kibosh on Trump's "opinion" of it.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/steele-dossier-retrospective

Rosenberg and Grant have carried out a side-by-side comparison of the dossier and actual information from court filings, indictments, prosecutions and convictions. They have clearly shown that so far, many of the revelations in the dossier are turning out to be accurate when compared with those filings. Furthermore, while some aspects have yet to be verified, there are absolutely NO aspects of the dossier that have been shown to be false.
 
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smartcooky said:
Trump, his minions and his blindly loyal and devoted disciples, have often claimed that The Steele Dossier is a completely made-up "fake document", that none of the information in it is true. Trump has constantly lied about how much was paid for it (figures he has used have ranged from $4m to $12.4m)...Well it seems that the dossier is in fact a very accurate document...
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Interesting link to an interesting website. Trump and his apparatchik have done a masterful job of discrediting and smearing the dossier. Not just among themselves but to the point that most commentators know to leave it alone. Always ignored has been:
The dossier is actually a series of reports—16 in all—that total 35 pages. Written in 2016, the dossier is a collection of raw intelligence. Steele neither evaluated nor synthesized the intelligence. He neither made nor rendered bottom-line judgments. The dossier is, quite simply and by design, raw reporting, not a finished intelligence product.
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One quote from the dossier, contained in the linked news article, caught my eye.
[T]he Russian regime had been behind the recent leak of embarrassing email messages, emanating from the Democratic National Committee (DNC), to the Wikileaks platform. The reason for using Wikileaks was "plausible deniability" and the operation had been conducted with the full knowledge and support of Trump and senior members of his campaign team. Link
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Sounds like Watergate all over again.
 
newyorkguy said:
Interesting link to an interesting website.
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I have been following Lawfare for a while now. Always very interesting stuff on that site.

Rosenberg is a regular MSNBC contributor, along with Barb McQuade and Joyce Vance. They bring level-headedness and reliable commentary, and most importantly, truth to the media (things that are totally lacking at Faux News)

newyorkguy said:
One quote from the dossier, contained in the linked news article, caught my eye.

[T]he Russian regime had been behind the recent leak of embarrassing email messages, emanating from the Democratic National Committee (DNC), to the Wikileaks platform. The reason for using Wikileaks was "plausible deniability" and the operation had been conducted with the full knowledge and support of Trump and senior members of his campaign team. Link
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Sounds like Watergate all over again.
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That was my thought as well.
 
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