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Mueller Investigation pt4

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The Big Dog said:
And he walked them back and apologized.

The claim was based on false information as I have shown.

Curious that people are repeating the lie, isn’t it?

Sullivan was wrong, yet people deliberately repeat the lie.

They repeat the lie.

Trump should shut down the mueller farce tomorrow.
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You must have missed this so I will repeat - the judge has seen the unredacted documents.

He has seen evidence that very few others are aware of. You have no idea what that evidence is so there is no possible way that you could show that it is false.
 
Steve said:
You must have missed this so I will repeat - the judge has seen the unredacted documents.

He has seen evidence that very few others are aware of. You have no idea what that evidence is so there is no possible way that you could show that it is false.
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You mean other than the fact he apologized and the mueller stooge admitted Flynn did not commit treason?

Wow.
 
Aridas said:
Chris Cuomo has the Trump Tower Moscow Letter with Trump's Signature! Signed 4 months into the Campaign, but the sound of it.
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Eeew, bad timing, Donnie. It's only Wednesday (over here - Tuesday night in the USA) and no time to back-and-fill before his self-appointed Christmas vacation. He's still reeling from the initial Flynn sentencing hearings and having to blink to Nancy and Chuck over the shutdown, and now it appears that he's caught lying, yet again.

Reached for a comment on a bench in Bryant Park, Rudi Giuliani said, while sipping from a bottle of Thunderbird in a brown paper bag, "He no one said signing papers was a crime. People sign papers all the time!"
 
The Big Dog said:
You mean other than the fact he apologized and the mueller stooge admitted Flynn did not commit treason?

Wow.
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I have no doubt you will be providing the quotes from the judge and the prosecution confirming this.

I do not mean the quote of the judge asking the prosecution if they had considered treason charges. I mean the quote from the judge stating that Flynn committed treason.

And I do not mean the quote of the prosecution saying they were not considering treason charges. I mean the quote from the prosecution stating that Flynn did not commit treason.

Eta ninja'd by I Am The Scum but in my defense my post took longer to write.
 
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The Big Dog said:
You mean other than the fact he apologized and the mueller stooge admitted Flynn did not commit treason?

Wow.
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You are incorrect.

The Judge admitted that he had made a mistake in that he had said that Flynn was working for both Turkey and the WH at the same time.

What he said about the Treason question was that they should not read more into it than there was, that he was curious as to if they had considered it.

He never accused Flynn of treason, nor did he suggest that the prosecution should have done so.

Asking a question does not and can never constitute a lie, as a lie is a false statement. Learn the difference.
 
The Big Dog said:
You mean other than the fact he apologized and the mueller stooge admitted Flynn did not commit treason?

Wow.
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Wow?


Is this all ya got, TBD? In breaking news Donnie and another of his lawyers are now documented as lying about the Moscow Trump Tower deal. Flynn tried to hide behind a technicality and got his ass nailed to a tree for it. "Oh, I'm not representing a foreign government, I'm just, er, .... lobbying... yeah, I'm lobbying for this nice Dutch company."

Judge got angry. Judge lost control. Judge later apologized (you could look that one up). Where's the smocking gun?
 
The Big Dog said:
You mean other than the fact he apologized and the mueller stooge admitted Flynn did not commit treason?

Wow.
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One, the judge never said that Flynn had committed treason. He asked the government attorneys if he could have been charged with treason. This was clearly out of disgust at what Flynn had been doing. The judge said immediately following, he wasn't suggesting that Flynn had committed treason

And the judge did say that Flynn had stopped working as an agent of Turkey when he became NSA and apologized for saying that he hadn't.

He said after being corrected by the government lawyers. And Flynn's contract with the Dutch shell corporation arguably ended in mid November.

However there is evidence that Flynn didn't stop as someone in the Trump administration during that period asked the justice department to reconsider extraditing Gulen. This was the work Flynn was doing for Turkey before becoming NSA and coincidentally Flynn immediately registers as a Foreign Agent of Turkey immediately upon be terminated.

So, what we know about Flynn.

Flynn was at first happy with the coup in Turkey and 14 days later he goes to work for Erdogan's government. He does this through a Dutch shell corporation. (Why do this, unless your trying to hide the source?) And then he writes an op-ed suggesting the US should extradite Gulen because he's a bad Islamist. Flynn registers as a lobbyist but not as a Foreign Agent which he clearly was. He gets appointed, then gets fired, then register with FARA as an agent for Turkey.

The puzzle pieces are there.
 
I put some posters on ignore a while back bcacuse they’re functionally trolling - whatever their motivation, they will never deviate from their fixed outlook, no matter how far from reality (or even their own previous arguments) they have to detach. If y’all want to engage, knock yourselves out.

But don’t indulge the lie I see built into quoted questions and claims, that is just “leftists” that think Flynn has behaved abhorrently, illegally, and in betrayal of his oaths and country. That’s baloney; it’s straight out of the trumpist lie-book, an evolution of the lie-framing that rotten pukes like Gingrich and Atwater started decades ago.
 
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The Big Dog said:
And he walked them back and apologized.

The claim was based on false information as I have shown.

Curious that people are repeating the lie, isn’t it?

Sullivan was wrong, yet people deliberately repeat the lie.

They repeat the lie.

Trump should shut down the mueller farce tomorrow.
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Limbaugh Logic: half-truths and falsehoods followed by a non sequitur.
 
Beelzebuddy said:
I'm not so sure. I think Flynn knows where ALL of the bodies are buried. There are only two men involved in this that Trump has never said a single bad thing about in public: Vladimir Putin and Mike Flynn. Barring information to the contrary, I assume it's because either of them can secure his nuts on a plate at a moment's notice.
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Flynn has. That's the thing. He already has.
 
dasmiller said:
I think Flynn hasn't spilled all the beans, either. At the hearing today, his lawyers asked for an extension because there might be a "modicum" of further cooperation they could give. Flynn was holding back something, and when they heard the judge today, he decided to give it up.

Now, we really don't know if the stuff Flynn held back had anything to do with Trump; it could be his other business associates, some foreign activity in the U.S. that he's privy to, or almost anything.

ETA: I think I'm concurring with Beelzebuddy.
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They told the judge it was WRT his business partners.
 
The Big Dog said:
It appears very clear that whatever assistance the mueller crime family is able to extort out of the Flynn family has nothing to do with Trump or Russia.
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Well, that's not what the court documents say.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5425867-Flynn-SCO-Supp.html

He's provided "documents and communications" about "links or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of Donald J Trump" "including interactions between individuals in the Presidential Transition Team and Russa" -"firsthand information about the content and context of interactions between the transition team and Russian government officials". Not just that but "His early cooperation was particularly valuable because he was one of the few people with long-term and firsthand insight" and "the defendant's decision to plead guilty and cooperate likely affected the decisions of related firsthand witnesses to be forthcoming with the SCO and cooperate".

So, he gave "substantial assistance" about Russia - as well as other crimes - helped Mueller to map the case out, and probably encouraged other people to come forwards and cooperate.

I know you want to laud him as an unfairly maligned hero because that's the route Trump has chosen to take, but Flynn has flipped. Nothing he has done has been good for Trump. All of it has been bad. His behaviour has been exactly the same as Cohen's.
 
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