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With people like Cohen doing time for carrying out his dirty work, justice demands he receives this and more. And this without even seeing what the Russia investigation shows.

This clown show should be in the process of being wound up based on what we know but the values party is complicit. I don’t get it. Why dont they cut this bum loose and bring in Pence? What do they lose?
 
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Stacyhs said:
It's going to be entertaining watching the rats jumping from the sinking SS Trumptanic.
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I think we've crossed a watershed with yesterday's performance (and will claim Told You So points if I'm right). The mid-term debacle settled any arguments about Trump's toxicity to the Republican Party, since when there's been Kashoggi, a cascade of backed-up Mueller-related business, and Kelly's departure. Yesterday's unusual event was surely meant to promote Trump as the reasonable man trying to work with recalcitrant Democrats, and he couldn't resist a jibe at Pelosi seconds after he stopped talking himself. Then, in so many words, he promised not to blame the Democrats for a shutdown, he would proudly own it. Republicans knew a Trump administration would be peculiar, but it's proving to be completely untethered. Things which shouldn't need saying do need saying to Trump, and he can't see the need when they are.


I think the Republican Party's mistake was to discount Trump's absolute political ignorance. They thought of it as political inexperience, which they're used to, but it's deeper than that.

2020 is coming, like it or not. It's time to cut losses. No wonder Pence had that enigmatic smile playing about his lips.
 
CapelDodger said:
I think we've crossed a watershed with yesterday's performance (and will claim Told You So points if I'm right). The mid-term debacle settled any arguments about Trump's toxicity to the Republican Party, since when there's been Kashoggi, a cascade of backed-up Mueller-related business, and Kelly's departure. Yesterday's unusual event was surely meant to promote Trump as the reasonable man trying to work with recalcitrant Democrats, and he couldn't resist a jibe at Pelosi seconds after he stopped talking himself. Then, in so many words, he promised not to blame the Democrats for a shutdown, he would proudly own it. Republicans knew a Trump administration would be peculiar, but it's proving to be completely untethered. Things which shouldn't need saying do need saying to Trump, and he can't see the need when they are.


I think the Republican Party's mistake was to discount Trump's absolute political ignorance. They thought of it as political inexperience, which they're used to, but it's deeper than that.

2020 is coming, like it or not. It's time to cut losses. No wonder Pence had that enigmatic smile playing about his lips.
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Inexperience would be fine if only he had put together a team of the best people and followed their advice. But his arrogance about all manner of political knowledge was on display during the campaign when he repeatedly said, “I know more anout x than anyone.”

Come hear the president of the USA talk expertly on any subject! What a bum.

19 things Donald Trump knows better than anyone else, according to Donald Trump
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...rding-to-donald-trump/?utm_term=.446b88147ee7
 
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CapelDodger said:
I think we've crossed a watershed with yesterday's performance (and will claim Told You So points if I'm right). The mid-term debacle settled any arguments about Trump's toxicity to the Republican Party, since when there's been Kashoggi, a cascade of backed-up Mueller-related business, and Kelly's departure. Yesterday's unusual event was surely meant to promote Trump as the reasonable man trying to work with recalcitrant Democrats, and he couldn't resist a jibe at Pelosi seconds after he stopped talking himself. Then, in so many words, he promised not to blame the Democrats for a shutdown, he would proudly own it. Republicans knew a Trump administration would be peculiar, but it's proving to be completely untethered. Things which shouldn't need saying do need saying to Trump, and he can't see the need when they are.


I think the Republican Party's mistake was to discount Trump's absolute political ignorance. They thought of it as political inexperience, which they're used to, but it's deeper than that.

2020 is coming, like it or not. It's time to cut losses. No wonder Pence had that enigmatic smile playing about his lips.
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The great thing is that his political ineptitude is going to be what guides him through 2019 and 2020. He's complaining that he doesn't have enough political sorts in the Administration to help him get re-elected and he's looking for campaign-manager types to put in key positions. He has no agenda other than that stupid wall, and that's an agenda because it was a campaign promise and he has to deliver on it because that's all he knows... running for office. He's clueless as to governing.
 
The fact that, despite is expectations, Trump completely failed to dominate Nancy and Chuck on his home turf might make him change tactics and switch sides; especially so if McConnell continues to sabotage the Criminal Justice reform plans.
 
Sideroxylon said:
Inexperience would be fine if only he had put together a team of the best people and followed their advice.
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Political inexperience is a familiar thing to experienced politicians (they all started that way, after all). They can factor it into their calculations - and the Republicans must have thought they'd have a big say in Trump's team. They would rein him in on important matters, while indulging his hunger for immaterial triumphs.

What they didn't appreciate was Trump's absolute political ignorance, which extends to office politics (when he left the college his father paid for he went to work for his father, and now his children work for him). They considered their influence on Trump's team, not whether he'd have a frickin' team at all. That was a given. Oops.
 
Foolmewunz said:
The great thing is that his political ineptitude is going to be what guides him through 2019 and 2020. He's complaining that he doesn't have enough political sorts in the Administration to help him get re-elected and he's looking for campaign-manager types to put in key positions. He has no agenda other than that stupid wall, and that's an agenda because it was a campaign promise and he has to deliver on it because that's all he knows... running for office. He's clueless as to governing.
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Indeed. Trump's horizon, in both time and space, is very close. The Republican Party has a different perspective, especially young up-and-coming real Republicans such as Nick Ayers.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
The fact that, despite is expectations, Trump completely failed to dominate Nancy and Chuck on his home turf might make him change tactics and switch sides; especially so if McConnell continues to sabotage the Criminal Justice reform plans.
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Trump's already taken credit for Criminal Justice reform, so why would he give a damn?
 
CapelDodger said:
Indeed. Trump's horizon, in both time and space, is very close. The Republican Party has a different perspective, especially young up-and-coming real Republicans such as Nick Ayers.
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You would hope there are some younger Republicans out there who will be of a mind to bring principles and values back to conservative politics. Also along with a return to fiscal conservativism maybe they could add apparently progressive ideas like respect for science.
 
CapelDodger said:
Trump's already taken credit for Criminal Justice reform, so why would he give a damn?
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He could change course on the criminal reform issue ten times. When he figures out who he hates this week and whether they support it, for instance. Or if Trump wants to pass it all you need is Obama to come out in support of the legislation and Trump will quash it. Or they could get a Miller White Paper (and we do mean "white") on whether there's insufficient damage to non-white people.
 
Sideroxylon said:
You would hope there are some younger Republicans out there who will be of a mind to bring principles and values back to conservative politics. Also along with a return to fiscal conservativism maybe they could add apparently progressive ideas like respect for science.
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Yeah, that's not gonna happen. Any young Repub is already lost to the Alt-Right.
 
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