Mueller Investigation pt4

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newyorkguy said:
(The quote above is from RT dot com, described as the Russian version of PBS.)

This is fast becoming a right wing meme. Mueller helped get us into the Iraqi War, which liberals hated, and now all of a sudden they love the guy because they think he's about to "get" Trump.
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He's about to "get" Trump because Trump has done a lot of illegal stuff and is trying to worm his way out of it like always. So what has the Iraq war got to do with this?
 
Norman Alexander said:
He's about to "get" Trump because Trump has done a lot of illegal stuff and is trying to worm his way out of it like always. So what has the Iraq war got to do with this?
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Mueller lied to get us into it, and now leftists are actually making votive candles because they think he is going to "get" Trump.

They are literally treating him like a saint.

This aint brain surgery folks.
 
The Big Dog said:
Mueller helped get us into the Iraqi War, which leftists hated, and now all of a sudden they love the guy because they think he's about to "get" Trump.

I'm sorry, is there something in there that you disagree with?

Do tell.
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I thought Mueller was an angry Democrat. Now he's a war-mongering Republican lap-dog?

What am I to believe?

Maybe I should look at the evidence produced by his investigation, rather than try to discredit the man based on some perceived political bias. Would that work?
 
Brainache said:
I thought Mueller was an angry Democrat. Now he's a war-mongering Republican lap-dog?

What am I to believe?

Maybe I should look at the evidence produced by his investigation, rather than try to discredit the man based on some perceived political bias. Would that work?
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Not exactly sure how people are missing this. He has a few process violations, a bunch of completely unenforceable warrants for Russian nationals, and leftists are ready to deify someone who conspired to get us into an entire war.

https://www.amazon.com/Robert-Mueller-Celebrity-Prayer-Candle/dp/B07CXP6K8B

Maybe Leftists should look at the evidence produced by his investigation, rather than try to credit the man based on actual political bias against Trump? Would that work?

lol, just joshing, they have convicted Trump months ago.
 
The Big Dog said:
I see on Twitter today that Leftists are deifying Mueller, to the point that there are actual votive candles!

Yeah, that is one of the guys who got us into the Iraq war.
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Those are scented candles, to clear the air of the stench of desperation eminating from Trump's apologists
 
FBI Director Robert Mueller endorsed the Bush administration’s bogus case for war with Iraq
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That's the last time I'll believe anything a Republican president says! ;)
 
The Big Dog said:
Mueller helped get us into the Iraqi War, which leftists hated, and now all of a sudden they love the guy because they think he's about to "get" Trump.

I'm sorry, is there something in there that you disagree with?

Do tell.
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Earth calling Dog Planet: The former has utterly nothing to do with the latter.

I've seen you ply this flavor of illogical nonsense a number of times. This is one of your flimsiest debate techniques. (Yeah, I just called out the shortest midget.)
 
The Big Dog said:
Mueller helped get us into the Iraqi War, which leftists hated, and now all of a sudden they love the guy because they think he's about to "get" Trump.

I'm sorry, is there something in there that you disagree with?

Do tell.
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How did he do that as the head of the FBI?
 
The Big Dog said:
Not exactly sure how people are missing this. He has a few process violations, a bunch of completely unenforceable warrants for Russian nationals, and leftists are ready to deify someone who conspired to get us into an entire war.

https://www.amazon.com/Robert-Mueller-Celebrity-Prayer-Candle/dp/B07CXP6K8B

Maybe Leftists should look at the evidence produced by his investigation, rather than try to credit the man based on actual political bias against Trump? Would that work?

lol, just joshing, they have convicted Trump months ago.
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Maybe reactionaries should learn what "kitsch" means.
 
The Big Dog said:
Not exactly sure how people are missing this. He has a few process violations, a bunch of completely unenforceable warrants for Russian nationals, and leftists are ready to deify someone who conspired to get us into an entire war.

https://www.amazon.com/Robert-Mueller-Celebrity-Prayer-Candle/dp/B07CXP6K8B

Maybe Leftists should look at the evidence produced by his investigation, rather than try to credit the man based on actual political bias against Trump? Would that work?

lol, just joshing, they have convicted Trump months ago.
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Somebody's desperate. The investigation has proven very clearly that Manafort is a criminal and a traitor to his country. That Flynn is a criminal and a traitor to his country. And that Trump is a criminal and a traitor to his country.
 
acbytesla said:
Somebody's desperate. The investigation has proven very clearly that Manafort is a criminal and a traitor to his country. That Flynn is a criminal and a traitor to his country. And that Trump is a criminal and a traitor to his country.
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Manafort a traitor to the US? Because he didn't report that he was getting paid to write op eds for the Ukraine?
 
acbytesla said:
How did he do that as the head of the FBI?
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My .02, I don't care if you want to litigate this point, my aim is to share a tip as to how to counter weaseling more effectively:

You're taking the bait. This red herring inevitably leads to a sidetrack about the Iraq War, and what Mueller may or may have not done at that time. All of which is entirely irrelevant to the price of bread.
 
BobTheCoward said:
Manafort a traitor to the US? Because he didn't report that he was getting paid to write op eds for the Ukraine?
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No, because he was trying to influence American foreign policy as a paid representative of a foreign power without registering as a foreign lobbyist.
 
The Big Dog said:
Mueller lied to get us into it, and now leftists are actually making votive candles because they think he is going to "get" Trump.

They are literally treating him like a saint.

This aint brain surgery folks.
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I know. The email went out this morning to buy one. I let all my leftist friends know they have to buy one too. Big backlog, but.
 
The Big Dog said:
Not exactly sure how people are missing this. He has a few process violations, a bunch of completely unenforceable warrants for Russian nationals, and leftists are ready to deify someone who conspired to get us into an entire war.

https://www.amazon.com/Robert-Mueller-Celebrity-Prayer-Candle/dp/B07CXP6K8B

Maybe Leftists should look at the evidence produced by his investigation, rather than try to credit the man based on actual political bias against Trump? Would that work?

lol, just joshing, they have convicted Trump months ago.
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Cohen and manafort are not process violations. manafort committed a number of financial crimes on purpose. Cohen pled to wilfully violating campaign law.

Process crimes allege criminal conduct related to the investigation, and not the crime itself. These two both committed crime crime.
 
varwoche said:
My .02, I don't care if you want to litigate this point, my aim is to share a tip as to how to counter weaseling more effectively:

You're taking the bait. This red herring inevitably leads to a sidetrack about the Iraq War, and what Mueller may or may have not done at that time. All of which is entirely irrelevant to the price of bread.
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I agree. Yuck spit it out. TBD's argument is irrelevant nonsense.
 
acbytesla said:
No, because he was trying to influence American foreign policy as a paid representative of a foreign power without registering as a foreign lobbyist.
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That doesn't sound traitorous at all. Regardless of he reports it or not, he is still representing the same position.
 
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