Cont: Brilliant Light Power Going To Market - Free Energy Generator Part 3

[JeanTate]

Arxiv paper postulating a "small hydrogen atom"

It's not being well-received by Mills followers because the author rejects Mills, and is apparently attempting to ensure that his/her hypothesis is compatible with the established laws of physics. How compatible it actually is I'm not in a position to say, although I can't imagine that it doesn't run into some of the same problems as Mills' "theory" does - most notably that if there was a state below the ground state then that would be the ground state and would be where you'd expect to find most hydrogen atoms in nature.

Interesting.

Not yet published in a relevant peer reviewed journal, many revisions, single author, ...

 

[markie]

markie, what causes a circular, planar electron to wrap around a nucleus? What forces act upon it to make this happen?

Electrostatic attraction between a negative electron and a positive proton.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Interesting.

Not yet published in a relevant peer reviewed journal, many revisions, single author, ...

Yes. First published in 2013, latest revision 2018.

I'm not making any claims for this, and would be surprised if it was correct. I'm more posting it as a comparison as it seems to my layman's eye that this author started out by looking at something anomalous and seeking to explain it while not violating what is known about physics. I'm amused by how that latter is seen as a negative by some Mills supporters.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Electrostatic attraction between a negative electron and a positive proton.

Can you provide more detail, please? Why does this cause the electron to deform? Why does it make it become a shell? Why does it make it change from something with an edge to something with no edge? Why does the electron remain a distance from the nucleus rather than falling in to it?

 

[markie]

This would be true if electrons were actually particles. Neither QED nor Mills actually defines them as particles. They are waves, in both theories.

I don't think Mills would call an orbitsphere a wave, although wave mechanics are used to described orbitsphere mechanics. Also, the deBroglie wavelength is the circumference of the free electron. Etc. Mills uses the term 'particle production', so context is everything.

 

[jrhowell]

4th quarter report

Same old same old. The presentation makes it appear that the major challenges have already been met. They just need a bit more money to finish the job. Very misleading as usual.

Some highlights:

"absolutely safe materials and operation" (p4)
It seems that all of our worries about hydrino toxicity were for nothing.

"Product Hydrino® “in a bottle” identified by multiple analytical methods." (p5), "Methods for measuring Hydrino® product" (p14), "Hydrino Analytical" (p89)
Great! But why didn't this make the news when the independent labs that did the testing published their amazing results?

"We have developed a resistive heater for the silver SunCell to replace the inductively coupled heater." (p34)
They were able to create a resistive heater. Huge accomplishment! So why have all of the many other remaining engineering challenges have all been outsourced?

"How the Thermal SunCell® Works" (p62)
A slide from previous reports touting how it works without ever mentioning that it actually isn't working yet.

"Cell is currently operating." (p65)
I guess I was wrong. They got it working!

"Successful version may serve as a 400 °C heater product..." (p65)
Oh, so it is working, just not successfully working.

 

[markie]

Yes. First published in 2013, latest revision 2018.

I'm not making any claims for this, and would be surprised if it was correct. I'm more posting it as a comparison as it seems to my layman's eye that this author started out by looking at something anomalous and seeking to explain it while not violating what is known about physics. I'm amused by how that latter is seen as a negative by some Mills supporters.

The only anomaly is the strange abundance of 510 keV photons coming from the galactic centre. Since there is no good explanation of why there should be so many positrons there (to annihilate with electrons), he proposes that the 510 keV photon is from the electron dropping 'almost' into the nucleus. Yet he offers no mechanism for how this could be possible. So he is exchanging one mystery for another, and there is no laboratory evidence. So it is just rather meh. At least he takes good account of the virial theorem and knows he has to come up with another kind of potential than the expected coulomb potential. So I like it because it is exploratory, but still it is a bit of a letdown. And he gets points deducted for not crediting Mills in any way.

 

[markie]

Can you provide more detail, please? Why does this cause the electron to deform? Why does it make it become a shell? Why does it make it change from something with an edge to something with no edge? Why does the electron remain a distance from the nucleus rather than falling in to it?

Nature seeks the low energy state, and the deformation from planar to spherical is just part of that process.

The electron has a particular angular momentum distribution as per chapter 3. When it wraps around the nucleus that moving membrane's inertia manifests as outward centrifugal 'force', which is in force balance with the attractive inner coulombic force. That is why the electron doesn't fall into the nucleus.

 

[UncertainH]

Interesting.

Not yet published in a relevant peer reviewed journal, many revisions, single author, ...

This author has been writing about Deep Dirac Levels for a while. Here are two:

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.13182/FST93-A30206

and

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.13182/FST95-A30350?journalCode=ufst19

"The original solutions of the Schrodinger relativistic equation and the Dirac equation for hydrogen-like atoms were analyzed for the possible existence of some other electron levels, which were not originally derived[\QUOTE]

 

[UncertainH]

I don't think Mills would call an orbitsphere a wave, although wave mechanics are used to described orbitsphere mechanics. Also, the deBroglie wavelength is the circumference of the free electron. Etc. Mills uses the term 'particle production', so context is everything.

True. A "particle" in this sense is self contained electromagnetic energy and the interaction is electromagnetic. Just wanted to emphasize that we are not talking about billiard balls and frisbees.

 

[UncertainH]

Interesting.

Not yet published in a relevant peer reviewed journal, many revisions, single author, ...

There are also many others investigating different ideas. The paper by J. Naudts often seems to be referenced.

http://vixra.org/abs/1809.0575

In this paper, a simple Zitterbewegung electron model, proposed in a previous work, is presented from a different perspective that does not require advanced mathematical concepts.

Ultra dense hydrogen is used as a term for a similar concept.

 

[jonesdave116]

"absolutely safe materials and operation" (p4)
It seems that all of our worries about hydrino toxicity were for nothing.

I was never worried about the toxicity of something that has as much evidence for its existence as Jack's beanstalk. And is just as scientifically viable.
I think we're safe.

 

[Myriad]

I was never worried about the toxicity of something that has as much evidence for its existence as Jack's beanstalk. And is just as scientifically viable.
I think we're safe.

I don't know. Mills didn't look too healthy in that last video. Hydrino exposure might be causing glycogen shrinkage syndrome.

 

[The Man]

How healthy did he look before?

PPE seems to consist of simply nitrile gloves and an optional flannel shirt. Least the guy working on the other unit is wearing safety glasses. Though he only seems to get informed of the test in progress, right behind him, when the lights start going out.

 

[halleyscomet]

How healthy did he look before?



PPE seems to consist of simply nitrile gloves and an optional flannel shirt. Least the guy working on the other unit is wearing safety glasses. Though he only seems to get informed of the test in progress, right behind him, when the lights start going out.

Pretty shoddy safety protocols for a device known for melting when it’s turned on.

 

[The Man]

Pretty shoddy safety protocols for a device known for melting when it’s turned on.

Yep, always a good idea to have a worker stand in close proximity to your red hot 'shakedown test'. That way if the thing flies apart, or has a runaway condition, you can get an idea of how much energy was involved by how far the shrapnel penetrates his body.

Let's not forget that the cell wasn't even closed until just last or this year.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Nature seeks the low energy state, and the deformation from planar to spherical is just part of that process.

2 things.

Firstly, how is deforming a circle into a sphere a product of "nature seek[ing] the low energy state"?

Secondly, if "nature seeks the low energy state", then why is it so hard to start the production of hydrinos? Why aren't they more common than hydrogen atoms?

When it wraps around the nucleus that moving membrane's inertia manifests as outward centrifugal 'force', which is in force balance with the attractive inner coulombic force.

How?

 

[Red Baron Farms]

Nature seeks the low energy state, ...

And yet the whole universe of hydrogen never turned into hydrinos. hmmmm

edit to add:

Secondly, if "nature seeks the low energy state", then why is it so hard to start the production of hydrinos? Why aren't they more common than hydrogen atoms?

oops you caught that first.

 

[Hans]

And yet the whole universe of hydrogen never turned into hydrinos. hmmmm

edit to add:
oops you caught that first.

Perhaps its conservative and doesn't like to change in public

 

[AlaskaBushPilot]

4th quarter report

lol. Thanks.

First observation is that a "Quarterly" report of interest to investors and the general public would be balance sheets and income statements. This is more like a propaganda screed not distant from Scientology and Hubbard.

It is fantastic as a source of bunkum, very complicated superficially and yet sleek in design for something that will move earth's orbit closer to the sun.