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Cont: The Trump Presidency X: 10-10 'til we do it again

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AnonyMoose said:
My great grandfather's bones are strewn somewhere beneath the sacred fields of Vimy Ridge. He was among the first groups of Canadian men to volunteer and put their lives on the line for freedom from tyranny.

My great grandmother was left to raise 6 children on her own. And like every other widow of that time, she managed to keep the family afloat... and no matter how hard she struggled and how poor they were, she stood strong and held her head high.

******* that useless bag of orange flesh and the ivory tower he and his golden helicopter sits in.
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Hey he is taking after his grandfather, the WWI draft dodger. It all runs in the family after all.
 
Why did he bother going on this trip? All he did is pout and fume and tweet from his hotel room. Was there a private moment with Putin?

On Morning Joe, they showed a picture of Trump, Macron, and Merkel, being approached by Putin. Macron and Merkel had sour looks. Trump was positively beaming. Like a dog reuniting with its master.

Add: Here's the pic:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...ir-putin-ww1-armistice-day-remembrance-sunday
 
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varwoche said:
Why did he bother going on this trip? All he did is pout and fume and tweet from his hotel room. Was there a private moment with Putin?

On Morning Joe, they showed a picture of Trump, Macron, and Merkel, being approached by Putin. Macron and Merkel had sour looks. Trump was positively beaming. Like a dog reuniting with its master.

Add: Here's the pic:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...ir-putin-ww1-armistice-day-remembrance-sunday
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There was a brief meeting but it was only covered by a Russian photo journalist. Here's the picture of it.
 

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I wonder what it must be like to be a Trump supporter.

Whenever I'm tempted to use a whataboutism, it's almost always when someone points out something about "my side" that I find it uncomfortable to deal with, or which I don't have a good answer to.

Going by this, the fact that trumpkins use whataboutisms all the time implies that it must be pretty hard to and exhausting to support the man. You can't have a rational discussion because it would mean saying "yes, that's terrible and goes against what America stands for and of course I don't support it" over and over again.

So they have this Dear Leader, the Dearest Leader, he has lots of friends and they all agree (etc.), but his opponents keep pointing out his major flaws and all the offensive things he does, so they're constantly on the defensive, having to handwave or excuse these things instead of getting to talk about whatever good things they think he does. This makes them frustrated with Trump's opponents, I suppose in part because they know they can't change Trump himself, or they don't want him to change to begin with.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
I wonder what it must be like to be a Trump supporter.

Whenever I'm tempted to use a whataboutism, it's almost always when someone points out something about "my side" that I find it uncomfortable to deal with, or which I don't have a good answer to.

Going by this, the fact that trumpkins use whataboutisms all the time implies that it must be pretty hard to and exhausting to support the man. You can't have a rational discussion because it would mean saying "yes, that's terrible and goes against what America stands for and of course I don't support it" over and over again.
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"How can you put up with Trump's lies?"
"All politicians lie. Obama said, 'If you like your insurance, you can keep it.'"
"So....does that mean you think it is ok?"
"Rule of So. The end."
 
Safe-Keeper said:
I wonder what it must be like to be a Trump supporter.

Whenever I'm tempted to use a whataboutism, it's almost always when someone points out something about "my side" that I find it uncomfortable to deal with, or which I don't have a good answer to.

Going by this, the fact that trumpkins use whataboutisms all the time implies that it must be pretty hard to and exhausting to support the man. You can't have a rational discussion because it would mean saying "yes, that's terrible and goes against what America stands for and of course I don't support it" over and over again.

So they have this Dear Leader, the Dearest Leader, he has lots of friends and they all agree (etc.), but his opponents keep pointing out his major flaws and all the offensive things he does, so they're constantly on the defensive, having to handwave or excuse these things instead of getting to talk about whatever good things they think he does. This makes them frustrated with Trump's opponents, I suppose in part because they know they can't change Trump himself, or they don't want him to change to begin with.
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As a Trump supporter it is imperative that you can see yourself as one of the good guys, as a true American, and belonging to the good folk.
The Whatabout is a way of replying, "you can't use that to say my people are bad because your people do it too." It's a lame defense but it does the job, since actually being a good person is not so relevant as holding ground that one belongs with the "good."
 
pgwenthold said:
"How can you put up with Trump's lies?"
"All politicians lie. Obama said, 'If you like your insurance, you can keep it.'"
"So....does that mean you think it is ok?"
"Rule of So. The end."
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And of course that wasn't a lie, preexisting plans were grandfathered in. The lie is that nothing in the law forced the private insurance companies to keep offering them.

All those thing really are just the free market in action, something the people supposedly upset by it should be in favor of.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Vote Trump or the bear gets it...
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(re: Trumpy Bear)
I just know that many, many people are going to be surprised when they get their bill for the second payment of $19.95.

The one thing I find unusual about this ad is that it does not include the trope "And now, for a limited time, you can get two of these. (Just pay a separate fee.)"
 
alfaniner said:
(re: Trumpy Bear)
I just know that many, many people are going to be surprised when they get their bill for the second payment of $19.95.

The one thing I find unusual about this ad is that it does not include the trope "And now, for a limited time, you can get two of these. (Just pay a separate fee.)"
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$40 for a teddy bear may seem a bit pricey, but it comes with a "certificate of authenticity." We should have demanded one of those from Trump.
 
Missed opportunity in not getting the hair right. Could have had an instructional booklet and video on how to get the comb-over right. Hours of fun for the whole family.
 
Apathia said:
As a Trump supporter it is imperative that you can see yourself as one of the good guys, as a true American, and belonging to the good folk.
The Whatabout is a way of replying, "you can't use that to say my people are bad because your people do it too." It's a lame defense but it does the job, since actually being a good person is not so relevant as holding ground that one belongs with the "good."
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I think it works like the CT mindset. The most important thing is to have an answer - any answer. It doesn't have to make sense, and it certainly doesn't have to be true, what matters is that you can say you had an answer. You only lose if you're left speechless.
 
Trump Tweets

"Just returned from France where much was accomplished in my meetings with World Leaders. Never easy bringing up the fact that the U.S. must be treated fairly, which it hasn’t, on both Military and Trade. We pay for LARGE portions of other countries military protection,........"

".....hundreds of billions of dollars, for the great privilege of losing hundreds of billions of dollars with these same countries on trade. I told them that this situation cannot continue - It is, and always has been, ridiculously unfair to the United States. Massive amounts....."

".....of money spent on protecting other countries, and we get nothing but Trade Deficits and Losses. It is time that these very rich countries either pay the United States for its great military protection, or protect themselves...and Trade must be made FREE and FAIR!"
 
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