Cont: The Trump Presidency X: 10-10 'til we do it again

[Craig4]

I was watching him trudge up the stairs, and a few steps from the top, he looked like he was running out of gas. He made a small flail at the handrail, but then it was like he thought that that wouldn't look manly and he didn't touch it. I'm surprised he hasn't asked for some kind of moving sidewalk thingy to take him to the top.

Good, maybe he's ill.

 

[alfaniner]

If we want to prevent Trump from starting a nuclear war, we just have to make the launch button look like an umbrella close button.

It should also have a big label on it that says "I'M SORRY". I'd feel comfortable knowing that he'd never touch the thing.

 

[dudalb]

It appears “Berlin Diary” is available legitimately online, albeit in rough form:

https://archive.org/stream/BerlinDi...William-L-Shirer-1942-632pgs-POL-sml_djvu.txt

Edited to add: click on “See Other Formats” for what appears to be a page-by-page scan of the entire book.

It's legally iffy. Book was published n 1941,and the copyright is till valid,owned by whoever the heris of William SHirere is.

 

[Stacyhs]

It isn't a wig

True. If it were, he wouldn't have a prescription for Propecia for his hair loss.

Interestingly, Propecia can have the following sexually related side effects:

... the hair-restoration drug can also have damaging effects on a man’s sexual health, including decreased sex drive, erectile problems and a decreased volume of ejaculation.

I bet Melania makes sure he takes it every day without fail. Maybe twice.

 

[Stacyhs]

I was watching him trudge up the stairs, and a few steps from the top, he looked like he was running out of gas. He made a small flail at the handrail, but then it was like he thought that that wouldn't look manly and he didn't touch it. I'm surprised he hasn't asked for some kind of moving sidewalk thingy to take him to the top.

Nah, he'll expect to be carried up the stairs on his adoring followers' shoulders.

 

[Stacyhs]

The emperors new fence.

And she said;

“This looks like a wall,” she said. “It’s 30 feet tall. I think the difference is not only is it see-through but it’s different than a fence in that it’s part of a system...it has technology. It’s a wall. This is what the president has asked us to do. It’s part of a system.”

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That'll show 'em.

A fence that is a wall ... and has technology!!![/QUOTE]

She's even adopting Trump's need to repeat what was just said as if that makes it less stupid.

 

[jimbob]

I don't understand anti semitism. By saying that a group with a population of 15 million controls everything, it really makes the white supremacists look like they are saying the Jewish people are the master race.

It's not understandable. It's irrational fear/hatred fueled by tribalism. It's not a well thought out philosophy, anchored by pragmatic reasoning. It's the reverse, actually.

It is also extremely flattering to Jewish people.

Yes, but logical consistency isn't exactly a strong point of such people -

I have a copy of "Uses and abuses of Psychology by Hans Eysenck (Pelican, 1953) and will type out a bit from the following:

Page 267 (Chapter - The psychology of anti-Semitism)

In actual fact, a person who holds one unfavourable view regarding the Jews will tend very strongly to hold other unfavourable views, even though the two views may be logically incompatible. Thus, for instance, one and the same person may believe that Jews are too seclusive, keeping themselves to themselves and not mixing with Gentiles, and also that they are too intrusive, trying to be over-assimilative.

<longish snip>

This finding is important because it shows that we cannot deal with anti-Semitism in isolation. Anti-Jewish prejudice in a way is merely accidental; where there are no Jews, other groups will take their place. The Jews merely stand in for the 'out-group', and prejudices regarding them are created regardless of their own behaviour by certain quite general processes in the psychology of the anti-Semite. If we wish to deal with anti-Semitism, therefore, we must broaden our quest and look at ethnocentrism as a whole.

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Minor derail but I think it is also interesting to quote from later in the chapter:

Independent studies in the United States have since given string support to these views [that there are certain non-political traits of antisemites] and added various other items as indicators of anti-Semitic tendencies. Nine main groups of items were found to correlate highly with anti-Semitism-ethnocentrism in these studies. The first group of items is referred to as 'conventionalism' or the rigid adherence to conventional middle-class values. Examples of this attitude are 'One should avoid doing things in public which appear wrong to others, even though one knows that these things are really all right.' The second group is known collectively as 'authoritarian submission', or submissive, uncritical attitude towards the idealized moral authorities of the 'in-group'. Examples of this attitude are 'What this country needs is fewer laws and agencies, and more courageous, tireless, devoted leaders, whom the people can put their faith in.' The third group of items is labelled 'authoritarian aggression', or a tendency to be on the look-out for, and to condemn, reject and punish, people who violate conventional values. As an example, we may quote the item 'Homosexuality is a particularly rotten form of delinquency and ought to be severely punished.'

The fourth group of items deals with opposition to the subjective, the imaginative, and the tender-minded and is called'anti-intraception'. Intraception is a somewhat technical term meaning 'the dominance of feelings, fantasies, speculations, aspirations - an imaginative, subjective, human outlook' as opposed to extraception, 'a term that describes the tendency to be determined by concrete, clearly observable physical conditions (tangible objective facts).' As an example, we may quote the the item 'There is too much emphasis in colleges on intellectual and theoretical topics, not enough emphasis on practical matters and on the homely virtues of living.'

The next group of items is headed 'superstition and stereotopy', i.e. a belief in the mystical determinants of the individual's fate and a disposition to think in rigid categories. As an example, the following may serve: 'Although many people may scoff, it may yet be shown that astrology can explain a lot of things.'

Next comes a belief in 'power and toughness', i.e. a preoccupation with the dominance-submission, strong-weak, leader-follower dimension; identification with power figures; and exaggerated assertion of strength and toughness. This attitude is expressed by items such as 'Too many people today are living in an unnatural, soft way,; we sshould return to the fundamentals, to a more red-blooded, active way of life.' Another group of items is characterised by the terms 'destructiveness and cynicism', or a generalised hostility and vilification of the human species. Instances of these attitudes are 'No matter how they act on the surface, men are interested in women for only one reason', and 'When you come right down to it, it's human nature to never do anything without an eye to one's own profit.

The last two sets of items are called 'projectivity', identified as the disposition to believe that wild and dangerous things are going on in the world; and the projection outwards of unconscious emotional impulses and sexual strivings, i.e. an exaggerated concern with sexual goings-on. Examples of these two tendencies are 'To a greater extent than most people realise our lives are governed by plots hatched in secret by politicians, and 'The sexual orgies of the old Greeks and Romans are nursery-school stuff compared to some of the goings-on in this country today, even in circles where people might least expect it.'

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How many of those boxes do Trumpettes tick?

 

[acbytesla]

I must say, I detest discussing this kind of trivia. (The umbrella incident) if overall Trump was a good guy, would we really care? I don't think so. It might be emblematic of the kind of person Trump is, but it is not worthy of discussion.

I'm far more offended by almost every word he says and every act of his administration. I hate that he says he's going to protect people from being denied coverage because of preexisting conditions and that his justice department is suing to allow Insurance companies to do exactly that. I hate that he us leading the nation with fear and division as opposed to trying to unite us.

I hate that he is demonizing immigrants turning poor families into something we should fear, I had hoped (probably irrationally) that once he became President, he would rise to the office. Instead, he is dragging us down to his level.

 

[jimbob]

I must say, I detest discussing this kind of trivia. (The umbrella incident) if overall Trump was a good guy, would we really care? I don't think so. It might be emblematic of the kind of person Trump is, but it is not worthy of discussion.

I'm far more offended by almost every word he says and every act of his administration. I hate that he says he's going to protect people from being denied coverage because of preexisting conditions and that his justice department is suing to allow Insurance companies to do exactly that. I hate that he us leading the nation with fear and division as opposed to trying to unite us.

I hate that he is demonizing immigrants turning poor families into something we should fear, I had hoped (probably irrationally) that once he became President, he would rise to the office. Instead, he is dragging us down to his level.

I sort-of disagree - although I think it more belongs in the Trump mental health thread (although more specifically about cognitive function). On its own, it means nothing, but it is more circumstantial evidence that he is not right. The fact that he seems so confused by an umbrella is more interesting than if he'd just dropped the umbrella immediately for a minion to pick up.

 

[acbytesla]

I sort-of disagree - although I think it more belongs in the Trump mental health thread (although more specifically about cognitive function). On its own, it means nothing, but it is more circumstantial evidence that he is not right. The fact that he seems so confused by an umbrella is more interesting than if he'd just dropped the umbrella immediately for a minion to pick up.

I don't disagree. It is all that...well maybe. But I can't imagine that the 25th will be invoked over these things. So when we discuss it, we look petty.

 

[Stacyhs]

I must say, I detest discussing this kind of trivia. (The umbrella incident) if overall Trump was a good guy, would we really care? I don't think so. It might be emblematic of the kind of person Trump is, but it is not worthy of discussion.

I'm far more offended by almost every word he says and every act of his administration. I hate that he says he's going to protect people from being denied coverage because of preexisting conditions and that his justice department is suing to allow Insurance companies to do exactly that. I hate that he us leading the nation with fear and division as opposed to trying to unite us.

I hate that he is demonizing immigrants turning poor families into something we should fear, I had hoped (probably irrationally) that once he became President, he would rise to the office. Instead, he is dragging us down to his level.

I'm always surprised that anyone could ever have thought Trump would change once in office. He showed us exactly who he was before and during the campaign ...repeatedly. Nasty, bullying, cheating, lying narcissists do not suddenly become something better. It's like a woman thinking her cheating, lying and abusive boyfriend will become a loving and faithful husband after the wedding vows.

 

[LSSBB]

I'm always surprised that anyone could ever have thought Trump would change once in office. He showed us exactly who he was before and during the campaign ...repeatedly. Nasty, bullying, cheating, lying narcissists do not suddenly become something better. It's like a woman thinking her cheating, lying and abusive boyfriend will become a loving and faithful husband after the wedding vows.

But then, Jesus would guide his hand.

Apparently, Jesus is only capable of guiding Republican hands.

 

[acbytesla]

I'm always surprised that anyone could ever have thought Trump would change once in office. He showed us exactly who he was before and during the campaign ...repeatedly. Nasty, bullying, cheating, lying narcissists do not suddenly become something better. It's like a woman thinking her cheating, lying and abusive boyfriend will become a loving and faithful husband after the wedding vows.

I wouldn't say I thought he actually would. But I certainly hoped.

 

[Stacyhs]

But then, Jesus would guide his hand.

Apparently, Jesus is only capable of guiding Republican hands.

Apparently Jesus has forgiven Trump his serial marital and business cheating, lying, bullying and name calling and is now a firm Trump supporter having sent him to be POTUS.

 

[Stacyhs]

I wouldn't say I thought he actually would. But I certainly hoped.

And I hoped I'd become someone who could eat everything I want and not gain weight. We've both been disappointed, heh?

 

[acbytesla]

And I hoped I'd become someone who could eat everything I want and not gain weight. We've both been disappointed, heh?

Many times.

 

[sts60]

And she said;
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That'll show 'em.

A fence that is a wall ... and has technology!!!

She's even adopting Trump's need to repeat what was just said as if that makes it less stupid.

A more useless, dishonest, ass-kidding, anticompetent, white supremacist twerp than Nielsen is hard to imagine... except for a bunch of other taxpayer-funded jerks who are part of Trump’s gang.

 

[dann]

I must say, I detest discussing this kind of trivia. (The umbrella incident) if overall Trump was a good guy, would we really care? I don't think so. It might be emblematic of the kind of person Trump is, but it is not worthy of discussion.

You're right. His allegedly small hands, eating habits, mushroom dick and wig/combover (whatever) are totally irrelevant, too!

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweets

" Watching the Dodgers/Red Sox final innings. It is amazing how a manager takes out a pitcher who is loose & dominating through almost 7 innings, Rich Hill of Dodgers, and brings in nervous reliever(s) who get shellacked. 4 run lead gone. Managers do it all the time, big mistake!"

"Thank you to Steve Rogers, FBI Joint Terror Task Force (Ret), for his very kind and generous remarks about me and my relationship to Law Enforcement. @JudgeJeanine"

"Just watched Wacky Tom Steyer, who I have not seen in action before, be interviewed by @jaketapper. He comes off as a crazed & stumbling lunatic who should be running out of money pretty soon. As bad as their field is, if he is running for President, the Dems will eat him alive!"

 

[WilliamSeger]

The emperors new fence.

Just a small plaque? How unbenefiting such a grand monument to bigotry and stupidity. Doesn't Trump have several sets of giant letters that are no longer needed elsewhere.?