Elizabeth Warren Ancestry Thread

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smartcooky said:
You're lying again!

Your Alternative Fact: Warren claimed her mother was a Native American and had to elope because of the racist parents-in-law'

The REAL fact: Warren claimed there was a family story about a Native American on her mother's side.


See how you lied to make what Warren said into a lie?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=53&v=RHzbdZuVyAM

Give it about 15 seconds and you will hear he say exactly what you are calling an alternative fact. She claimed her Mother's Family was part Native American to the point that her parents had to elope due to discrimination.

Now, do you see how you lied?
 
Love the various random bolding (loud noises!), and the reciting the number of my posts, but not reading any of the numerous articles I have posted about why Warren's stunt is racist garbage.
 
Leftus said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=53&v=RHzbdZuVyAM

Give it about 15 seconds and you will hear he say exactly what you are calling an alternative fact. She claimed her Mother's Family was part Native American to the point that her parents had to elope due to discrimination.

Now, do you see how you lied?
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I've highlighted and emphasised the important bit

I'm part Swiss... it doesn't mean I AM Swiss, or that I claim to be Swiss. get it now?
 
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acbytesla said:
Falsely? The DNA proved her claim. No need to apologize TBD for FALSELY claiming this.

BTW:
And still you have never answered the question. Why is this claim so important to you that you post 175, 176, 177, 178, 179, 180........195 times and yet I haven't seen any??? posts of yours condemning the flood of Trump's river of lies?
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To be fair, the results are consistent with her claim, but do not prove it in every detail. (It doesn't prove, for instance, a Cherokee ancestor. )
 
Leftus said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=53&v=RHzbdZuVyAM

Give it about 15 seconds and you will hear he say exactly what you are calling an alternative fact. She claimed her Mother's Family was part Native American to the point that her parents had to elope due to discrimination.

Now, do you see how you lied?
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I don't see it, since part Native American is not the same as Native American. It is a shorthand for having Native American ancestry.
 
kookbreaker said:
Explain again why Warren needs to apologize for trying to deal with the bully Trump taunting her with ‘Pocahontas’ every other tweet?
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Trump’s supporters see his behavior as the sign that he is a real leader.

Just like the awesome playground bully that was their leader back in middle school. :rolleyes:
 
The Big Dog said:
Love the various random bolding (loud noises!), and the reciting the number of my posts, but not reading any of the numerous articles I have posted about why Warren's stunt is racist garbage.
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Why don't you answer this simple question instead of sending us all over the intenet?

Seriously. Why do you post 196 times about Warren's claim that hasn't been proven to be untruthful and yet you never post about Trump lying about his taxes, the women he had affairs with, the people he defrauded and cheated or any of the 5,000 lies Trump has told in the last 2 years?

Why is it this one little claim about Warren is important to you and Trump's misstatements, no lies aren't?

Could it be that Warren is a Democrat? And she might be running for President?
 
LOUD NOISES! Why do you post links about the thread subject in your posts for us to read on the internet!

Why don't you post about TRUMP!

lololol!
 
smartcooky said:
I've highlighted and emphasised the important bit

I'm part Swiss... it doesn't mean I AM Swiss, or that I claim to be Swiss. get it now?
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So, Elizabeth Warren is not an Indian? And never claimed to be an Indian?

Which would mean that since Trump said he would pay a million to charity if the test showed she was an Indian, he doesn't have to pay up, right? I mean, legally, he doesn't have to anyway, but he isn't welching on his promise, because the test didn't show she was an Indian. It showed she had an Indian ancestor, probably, which is the same as being a small part Indian. I'm sure you will hasten to correct anyone who tries to say that Trump is welching.



It's funny to watch both sides go at it and talk past each other. I wasn't aware that The Big Dog was so sensitive about race issues. I'm sure next time a thread comes up where someone is obviously behaving in a racist manner, he'll jump right on that and condemn it.
 
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Vixen said:
If she's a fake democrat and a fake Native American, how do you know she is not a fake patriot? Could sell the USA to the Russians or the Chinese with that fickle mindset.
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People change party affiliations. I changed mine. My parents changed theirs. It doesn't make us or Warren "fake" Democrats.
Not everyone stubbornly sticks to their first opinion come hell or high water because they can't ever admit they were wrong or made a mistake.

Warren does have NA ancestry just as she claimed. Or do you claim to have more knowledge of genetic genealogy than Dr. Bustamante?
 
phiwum said:
To be fair, the results are consistent with her claim, but do not prove it in every detail. (It doesn't prove, for instance, a Cherokee ancestor. )
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That's because the DNA database isn't that specific. It's also not important. What if it turned out to be a Sioux or Blackfoot or some other Native tribe. Would that make her a liar or just someone mistaken about family lore?

I've often told a story that my father was on Omaha Beach on D-Day and was stranded on the beach that hellish morning. I said my father was on a Higgins boat that was shot up.

A few years ago, I found out that cannot be true as no US Navy personnel piloted those boats. They were manned by British navy. I had been thinking either my memory was wrong or worse that my Dad lied to me 40 years ago.

I managed to get his service records . It turns out he was on an LST a Landing Ship Tank Carrier that hit a mine, not a Higgins boat.

So specifically I was mistaken. Does that make me a liar?
 
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I do enjoy all the white folks providing anecdotes about their white lives in this thread about why Warren’s conduct was racist as **** to Native Americans
 
acbytesla said:
I think this is the essence of this non-issue.

I pointed out the blond haired blue eyed adopted son of my best friend who is Native American, African American and Caucasian. Is he committing fraud by checking all those boxes on some routine form he filled out?

Or should he just check Caucasian because he appears whiter than white?
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Actually, I think your post is the essence of this non-issue, which isn't actually a non-issue at all.

The real issue that is hiding behind the non-issue of Elizabeth Warren's ancestry is that your friend's son shouldn't have to check any box at all, and checking one box or another should have no effect on his life. Indeed, it would be better if those boxes weren't even there.

Unfortunately, in some cases, there are legitimate reasons for needing those boxes, but there is considerable debate about whether they ought to exist, and the fact that an obvious paleface checks the "Native American" box that is there on the form is a good illustration of one (but only one) side of the argument. In other words, the people who think those boxes ought to be completely gone from those forms can use this anecdote to support their case, and they will be correct that it shows something that is a negative consequence of having the box.

So, Elizabeth Warren's ancestry really is a non-issue, but it illustrates a real problem in America that is a real issue.
 
Meadmaker said:
I wasn't aware that The Big Dog was so sensitive about race issues. I'm sure next time a thread comes up where someone is obviously behaving in a racist manner, he'll jump right on that and condemn it.
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And if my grandmother had wheels, she'd have been a wagon.

(NOTE to Republicans: This does not mean I am claiming that she was a wagon, or ever has been a wagon, or even descended from wagons)
 
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