Cont: The Trump Presidency X: 10-10 'til we do it again

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Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

"Despite so many positive events and victories, Media Reseach Center reports that 92% of stories on Donald Trump are negative on ABC, CBS and ABC. It is FAKE NEWS! Don’t worry, the Failing New York Times didn’t even put the Brett Kavanaugh victory on the Front Page yesterday-A17!"
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Given the fact that the majority of people do not think Kavanaugh should be a judge, does he REALLY think putting news about him on the front page would really benefit him?
 
Lurch said:
Well, he managed not to lose it all, which is better than a lot of people have done with inherited wealth, but it's a lot less impressive than Trump would like everybody to think it is.
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Then what were the several bankruptcies about? I think he lost all that and more, and got to the point where no US banks would let him in the door. His current wealth is all about Russia.
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Well, technically those were business bankruptcies rather than personal bankruptcies. Not sure how much personal liability he'd have to deal with if one of his businesses went under, but it may be possible that he'd maintain some assets even if one of his companies went bankrupt. (The creditors would basically be stuck with the debt.)
 
LSSBB said:
Trump Tweets

"Despite so many positive events and victories, Media Reseach Center reports that 92% of stories on Donald Trump are negative on ABC, CBS and ABC. It is FAKE NEWS! Don’t worry, the Failing New York Times didn’t even put the Brett Kavanaugh victory on the Front Page yesterday-A17!"
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Or... 92% of what he does is negative.
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Or.... closer to 100% of what Trump does is negative, but the news media tries desperately to find something positive to say about him, even if its minor, or irrelevant or undeserved.

"Trump doesn't cause the world to spontaneously explode... film at 11".
 
acbytesla said:
In fact, his daughter told a story (no idea if it is true and given its coming from a Trump, it's likely not) of how her and her father were coming out of Trump Tower where there was a homeless guy and her father said was actually poorer than the homeless guy.
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Leave it to Trump... even at the lowest point in his life, he still makes an effort to be a jerk to the less fortunate.

(Paraphrased from John Oliver's show)
 
phiwum said:
What were the other predictions? Were they as low as 1 in 10? If so, that's not an "all but guaranteed" loss.
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A couple days before the election Huffington Post concluded odds in Hillary's favor were 99-1 or 98-2. I did not take a screen shot but I'm sure I remember that correctly. I don't know how they were arriving at that, since elsewhere I was seeing Trump had a significant chance of winning.

I also think it may have been significant that polls focused on likely voters. It's possible that the 2016 election drew out people who didn't usually vote and so were undercounted in polls.
 
Trump isn't happy with the Federal Reserve:

President Donald Trump blamed the Federal Reserve for Wednesday's 832-point stock dive.

"I think the Fed is making a mistake. They're so tight. I think the Fed has gone crazy," Trump told reporters on the tarmac in Pennsylvania.

"It's a correction that we've been waiting for for a long time," he said of the more than 800-point drop.

"I really disagree with what the Fed is doing," Trump said.
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Linky.
 
Segnosaur said:
Well, technically those were business bankruptcies rather than personal bankruptcies. Not sure how much personal liability he'd have to deal with if one of his businesses went under, but it may be possible that he'd maintain some assets even if one of his companies went bankrupt. (The creditors would basically be stuck with the debt.)
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They took his superyacht off him hahaha
 
Minoosh said:
A couple days before the election Huffington Post concluded odds in Hillary's favor were 99-1 or 98-2. I did not take a screen shot but I'm sure I remember that correctly. I don't know how they were arriving at that, since elsewhere I was seeing Trump had a significant chance of winning.

I also think it may have been significant that polls focused on likely voters. It's possible that the 2016 election drew out people who didn't usually vote and so were undercounted in polls.
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This demonstrates why one should not pay much attention to HuffPo's statistical analyses of much of anything.

I kept an eye on Nate Silver's 538 site. At no point were his numbers anywhere nearly so sanguine about Hillary's chances. In the last week they steadily dropped.

Reports like HuffPo's may have hurt Hillary's chances by encouraging complacency.
 
Tsukasa Buddha said:
Trump on the latest climate change report:
“It was given to me. It was given to me, and I want to look at who drew, you know, which group drew it,” the president said, as Hurricane Michael edged closer to the Florida’s northern Gulf Coast, threatening devastating flooding, which scientists say is exacerbated by rising sea levels.

Trump said some reports were good, while others were not as good.

“Because I can give you reports that are fabulous, and I can give you reports that aren’t so good,” he added.
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Linky.
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My daughter could express herself better than Trump when she was in middle school. The man has a very low level command of language. Especially for someone who's a 'genius' with 'a very good brain'.
 
Ladewig said:
If this was aimed at me (I was the last person who requested that we stop with the Hitler comparison), I want to point out that I didn’t say we should stop because they are wrong, I said we should stop because they are unhelpful.

Comparisons to Hitler never convince the other side to examine what is happening. Instead, such comparisons simply make the other side accuse the folks of making the comparison as being irrational lunatics who are beyond reasonable discussion.
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My thesis in political science was how it can happen here in the US. The comparisons of any government that transforms from a democracy to an autocracy to the third Reich is almost inevitable. Trump ISN'T Hitler or anything close to Hitler. They are different in just about every way. Nevertheless, there is little question that Trump is using some of the tactics and strategies of Goebbels and Hitler. But even Goebbels and Hitler didn't invent those tactics.

Part of the reason probably make the comparisons is all that was written about the Third Reich. I've read more books on WWII than any period in history. In fact, the last couple of days, I've been reading Stephen Ambrose's book about D-Day.
 
acbytesla said:
My thesis in political science was how it can happen here in the US. The comparisons of any government that transforms from a democracy to an autocracy to the third Reich is almost inevitable. Trump ISN'T Hitler or anything close to Hitler. They are different in just about every way. Nevertheless, there is little question that Trump is using some of the tactics and strategies of Goebbels and Hitler. But even Goebbels and Hitler didn't invent those tactics.

Part of the reason probably make the comparisons is all that was written about the Third Reich. I've read more books on WWII than any period in history. In fact, the last couple of days, I've been reading Stephen Ambrose's book about D-Day.
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Even Hitler served in the army. He didn't have convenient 'bone spurs'.
 
Minoosh said:
A couple days before the election Huffington Post concluded odds in Hillary's favor were 99-1 or 98-2. I did not take a screen shot but I'm sure I remember that correctly. I don't know how they were arriving at that, since elsewhere I was seeing Trump had a significant chance of winning.

I also think it may have been significant that polls focused on likely voters. It's possible that the 2016 election drew out people who didn't usually vote and so were undercounted in polls.
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I remember that, but HuffPo was certainly an outlier.

On Nov. 5, 528 had Trump at 35% chance of winning. They were a bit of an outlier too, but better respected, I think, than HuffPo.
 
phiwum said:
I remember that, but HuffPo was certainly an outlier.

On Nov. 5, 528 had Trump at 35% chance of winning. They were a bit of an outlier too, but better respected, I think, than HuffPo.
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On the other hand, there's a tragicomic election night video montage. In the video, as election results are rolling in, Rachel Maddow continues to explain with charts and graphs and big hand gestures and an increasingly manic grin, than Hillary can't possibly lose.

But I think my favorite election night story is from Amy Chozick's book. She describes a tense conference call. Clinton campaign staffers are reacting to the news that Florida is going to Trump. The campaign chief says, "it's okay. The model shows we've still got this."

"You don't understand," says the chief modeler. "If the model is wrong in Florida, it's wrong everywhere."
 
Senators Booker and Menedez have sent Trump letter over Jamal Khashoggi's "disappearance."

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Segnosaur said:
Or.... closer to 100% of what Trump does is negative, but the news media tries desperately to find something positive to say about him, even if its minor, or irrelevant or undeserved.

"Trump doesn't cause the world to spontaneously explode... film at 11".
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Ehh. I'm fine with 92%. There's neutral news, too, after all, with occasional actually deserved positive news. Credit should be given where credit's due, regardless. He did an acceptable job when it came to his actions related to disaster relief in Texas, after all, for example (and yes, that is distinct from the failures related to Puerto Rico). The "positive" news that he actually stayed on script for a speech, though, is more like damning with faint praise.
 
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Pakistan navy quits anti-piracy task force amid worsening US ties

The decision to leave the task force was taken after the US-led operation refused to pay for fuel for the patrolling warships as part of a previous agreement, two highly-placed military officials told Al Jazeera on the condition of anonymity.

Military officials believe that CTF nations will feel Pakistan's absence because of its counter-piracy expertise and the Pakistani vessels' access to waters that are not friendly to Western flag-bearing ships.
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So, the US failed to pay what it had agreed to pay. Trump's style is amazing for the law and order seeking part of the world.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
bet you any number of MIPs that Fox will now double-down on the claim of paid protesters.
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Not just Fox, that's the latest talking points memo. It went out to every alt-right winger from social media to the mainstream media talking heads. Think about it, Kavanaugh claimed George Soros was paying to get Kav's nomination derailed.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
Not just Fox, that's the latest talking points memo. It went out to every alt-right winger from social media to the mainstream media talking heads. Think about it, Kavanaugh claimed George Soros was paying to get Kav's nomination derailed.
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You have to give the right wing points for staying true to their conspiracy theories bent.
 
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