Please don't personalize the argument.
The Behavior of UK Police officers.
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Please don't personalize the argument.
Well your addressing has been so bad Postman Pat would have trouble finding the address!
This is a reification and meaningless statement.
Brilliant! OMFG, how brilliant is this! If ever someone completely and utterly missed the point, and in the process managed to confirm a cultural stereotype, that's you! No Brit would ever read that the way you have done, which is to reverse it's meaning by 180 degrees.
Irony.
Gang rape is nothing to laugh about. It's obvious to whom "British" muslim politicians are loyal and it's not the citizens.
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OK, so you do not understand US gun control problems.
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Would a US police chief even go out without any protective equipment, let alone tackle a terrorist attack whilst unarmed?
Way to address your argument. Never seen anyone on the Internet do that before.
Please take your concerns to the thread about US murder rates where how I successfully argued US gun laws have little to no impact on them.
They had nothing to protect themselves from a 110 story skyscraper falling on them, so......... yes.
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You're asking the wrong question. You need to take the most heroic behaviour of the public in this situation and expect it to be duplicated or exceeded.
A baker used a crate of bread to attack terrorists wielding foot-long knives:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ket-fought-off-terrorists-crate-a7773671.html
A father is stabbed seven times and refuses to back down as he prevents terrorists from storming the pub at which he's drinking and killing people inside:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-market-stabbing-hero-southwark-a7773841.html
As a related matter, search Google for Roy Larner, the name of the latter guy, and the top two stories are not how he almost died saving people's lives, but how he was prosecuted for shouting racist slogans.
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Got a link? I agree, US gun laws are pretty much ineffective on the death rate.
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Got an example of a unarmed US police chief intervening in a terrorist attack?
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Senior officers don't carry operational equipment, especially not if they're visiting Parliament. He was in the back of the car, but it was his driver who took the decision to lock the doors to protect the senior officer he was responsible for. For all he knew, Mackey himself was an intended target of the terrorist. I suppose he could have backed the car into the terrorist, but the window of opportunity was scant seconds before he was shot, anyway.
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Except that you didn't.
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The police commissioner Mackey does disgust me. I do get why he remained in the car. He is an elderly, unfit senior officer who does not get training in PPE and he would likely be more of a hindrance than a use. But, there was an opinion of trying to distract the terrorist and after the attack, Mackey did nothing to help.
There was another officer who was the driver. He could have justifiably driven at the terrorist.
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Of course, there are things even a fat old geezer like him could have done. He's in a position of high responsibility and some of that includes setting an example to the ranks. If he's fat, that's his fault, if he's untrained, that's his fault, if he's unarmed (e.g. TASER), that's his fault. How can he expect his officers to show bravery when he sits there are watches one of them being stabbed to death?
He was refused by his driver. He (the Met Commissioner) wanted to stop. Police were already on the scene, of course, so his role was to go and co-ordinate the city-wide policing response.
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I don't think it would have been feasible to drive forwards at the terrorist, because the injured PC Palmer was running ahead of him, past the car. Once the terrorist was himself past the car, he was almost immediately shot by the close-protection officer. Had he not been there, Mackey's driver might have been able to reverse at the terrorist.
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I agree on the fat but the training not so much. I doubt he would have any time to keep up with training but he will have had it in the past and should have known what to do.
As for the taser, I don't agree at all. Not every officer is trained or cleared to carry a tazer and not all those cleared get to carry one anyway. In Cleveland at least they are only issued to Firearms officers (or were until recently)
As for the taser, I don't agree at all. Not every officer is trained or cleared to carry a tazer and not all those cleared get to carry one anyway. In Cleveland at least they are only issued to Firearms officers (or were until recently)
No, but your gormless mis-interpretations of a politician's ironic statement is. He meant precisely the opposite of what you think he meant, and you are the only one who hasn't the nouse to see it. Here, have another one:
Yep, indeed it is: to Britain.
Well, OK, it may not be obvious to those with spittle obscuring their vision and a fascist/ white supremacist filter in their tiny little brains. But to the rest of us, particularly those of us who can read, it's completely obvious what his meaning was, and where his loyalties lie.
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