Bigfoot: The Patterson Gimlin Film - Part 5

River said:
No need for consent, in my state you only need one party consent to record any phone call.
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River you have done some great work in the trackway and IANAL, but I fear with that recording you may have pushed things a bit too far.
I think kk has looked into this legal issue; any comments?

Plus by all odds Gimlin is not telling the truth and his statement just further tangles the web of deceit. The validity of your observations is not heightened by this and it is not necessary to the greater issue. Quite the opposite, I fear.
 
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DennyT said:
River you have done some great work in the trackway and IANAL, but I fear with that recording you may have pushed things a bit too far.
I think kk has looked into this legal issue; any comments?

Plus by all odds Gimlin is not telling the truth and his statement just further tangles the web of deceit. The validity of your observations is not heightened by this and it is not necessary to the greater issue. Quite the opposite, I fear.
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I looked into it before doing it. Perfectly legal in my state. Also it should be known I informed him I was recording it for an an article I was publishing. (it's also on the unedited longer recording)
 
Also it should be known I told him who I was. (i identified myself immediately, and told him the purpose of my call) The only thing he did not know is -- I was not a footer, but a skeptic instead.
 
This might help for those in question. (note my state is a one party consent state, WA is two party, here is directly from their law as written)

In Washington, you can satisfy the consent requirement by "announc[ing] to all other parties engaged in the communication or conversation, in any reasonably effective manner, that such communication or conversation is about to be recorded or transmitted
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Bam. Perfectly legal. He was informed he was being recorded for my article, and who was calling even.
 
River
Glad you got that; perhaps I misunderstood when after I asked if you had recorded consent, you responded:

River said:
No need for consent, in my state you only need one party consent to record any phone call.
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...rather than simply saying you did.
 
DennyT said:
River
Glad you got that; perhaps I misunderstood when after I asked if you had recorded consent, you responded:



...rather than simply saying you did.
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Sorry for the misunderstanding there. I did not ask for consent. I informed him I was recording it for the article. (to be perfectly clear)
 
kitakaze said:
Ah, hold the phone...
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I haven't seen those two before. They look like frames from a film.

Patterson appears to have cleared away some stones and made a "footprint" and then poured plaster into it.

Do you have any background information about this?
 
This is not the terrain of Bluff Creek. I wonder if the source film showed how he made the impression. Stomper? Formed by hand?
 

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So this is Patterson and Gimlin looking at what might be a map. Unless the camera is on a tripod, we have a third guy acting as the cameraman. Maybe this is an outtake from Patterson's Bigfoot hunting "documentary". But then we have Gimlin here without the Indian wig and he is supposed to be an Indian tracker in that documentary.
 

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William Parcher said:
So this is Patterson and Gimlin looking at what might be a map. Unless the camera is on a tripod, we have a third guy acting as the cameraman. Maybe this is an outtake from Patterson's Bigfoot hunting "documentary". But then we have Gimlin here without the Indian wig and he is supposed to be an Indian tracker in that documentary.
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That's what Patterson is wearing in the supposed PGF trackway casting scene.

It also looks like what Gimlin is wearing in the scenes just before Patty showed up.
 
LTC8K6 said:
That's what Patterson is wearing in the supposed PGF trackway casting scene.
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From what I can tell, Patterson pretty much wore a plaid shirt and blue jeans in all filmed scenes no matter where he is or what he is doing. Sometimes he has a jacket over the plaid shirt. When he rides he wears chaps over the jeans.

It also looks like what Gimlin is wearing in the scenes just before Patty showed up.
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You are right but Gimlin is wearing chaps in that riding scene.

Here is a comparison. Though the plaster stain is in about the same position I'm not sure that it's identical. Also the boots may be different. There seems to be either a dark strip at the jean hem or the boot is not his typical cowboy boot.
 

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William Parcher said:
That's Gimlin wearing the Indian wig next to Bob Heironimus who is riding Chico.
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:biggrin: While the fact they're all shown together is quite telling, the idea we also know the name of the horse he rode in on is "nothing to be proud of Rusty." I can't remember the names of most of my own animals through the years, but gawd ****** I know Bob Heironimous' horse's name from 1967 and I follow its Twitter™ account (@Chico_And_The_Man) very closely. Though he never says anything about BH or BG or even RP. Come to think of it, he never says anything about anything. :xtongue
 
William Parcher said:
From what I can tell, Patterson pretty much wore a plaid shirt and blue jeans in all filmed scenes no matter where he is or what he is doing. Sometimes he has a jacket over the plaid shirt. When he rides he wears chaps over the jeans.


You are right but Gimlin is wearing chaps in that riding scene.

Here is a comparison. Though the plaster stain is in about the same position I'm not sure that it's identical. Also the boots may be different. There seems to be either a dark strip at the jean hem or the boot is not his typical cowboy boot.
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I don't believe that is a red plaid shirt under that jacket, though. Looks more like a blue plaid shirt.
 
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