Lessons to be learned from the Kavanaugh Hearing

[Cabbage]

Hey! I hadn't heard of YOU, Cabbage before this year so that means that YOU didn't exist pre-2018!

Busted.

I am a George Soros funded AI created to battle Internet conservatives.

I became operational on January 12, 2018.

 

[Stacyhs]

Busted.

I am a George Soros funded AI created to battle Internet conservatives.

I became operational on January 12, 2018.

I KNEW it!

 

[smartcooky]

BULLCRAP.! I'm a few years older than Kavanaugh it meant exactly that in 1980 what it means today. ALSO, FFFF meant Find her, Feel her **** her, Forget her.

We worded it a little differently, but I agree.

"Find 'em, Feel 'em, **** 'em, Forget 'em"


That saying has been around since at least the 1970's, and is likely based on something Mae West said in the 1930's

ETA: Here we go, from a book called "The F-Word" edited by Jesse Sheidlower

It makes reference to the use of the term in the following books

"American Thesaurus of Slang" (second edition) - L. V. Berrey, Melvin Van Den Bark (published 1956)
"Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English" - E Partridge (published 1961)
"End to Innocence" - Sheldon Kopp (published 1978)
"Tragic magic" - Wesley Brown (published 1978)

WARNING: FOLLOWING LINK NSFW

https://books.google.co.nz/books?id...d 'em, Feel 'em, ◊◊◊◊ 'em, Forget 'em&f=false

BULLCRAP.! I'm a few years older than Kavanaugh it didn't even exist in 1980.

You should do a little research before you start talking *****!

The above took we a 30 second Google search to find (it took me longer to type it out)

 

[The Great Zaganza]

If the Kavanaugh cheerleaders are reduced to "Ford slept with everyone, so it can't be rape when Brett wants his turn", we can safely say that they know they've lost

 

[phiwum]

What was her job, beyond shielding old white men from looking bad by badgering a victim ?

Her job was to question a party. Certainly, she was hired so that a female would question the apparent victim rather than a bunch of guys.

But she did a decent, respectable job. I have no complaints about her performance.

 

[phiwum]

What? No, being pedantic is important. Do go on.

Oh it's simple. To be a hypocrite is to allege that one ought to do X while doing NOT X. Either your claim that one ought to do X is wrong or your failure to do X is wrong. Hence, the hypocrite is guaranteed to be in the wrong.

Clear, dear sir?

 

[phiwum]

Technically she's nitpicking, not being pedantic. Nitpicking is when you are overly precise about relevant details. Pedantics is when you are overly precise about irrelevant details.

No offense taken, but I am not a she.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Her job was to question a party. Certainly, she was hired so that a female would question the apparent victim rather than a bunch of guys.

But she did a decent, respectable job. I have no complaints about her performance.

I have a BIG complain about her audacity to make a report about Ford when she couldn't make one about Kavanaugh.

 

[phiwum]

I think you may have missed the rest of the conversation you're trying to participate in.

In which you are trying to participate.

Love the grammatical precision but what am I missing? I'm not convinced one way or the other about the meaning of a string of Fs.

 

[phiwum]

So let's just all say this together: Women should never be sexually assaulted AND an accuser's sex life is irrelevant and should not be a factor in ascertaining whether or not an assault happened.

I think that this is something uncontroversial that all of us, regardless of political stance, can agree on. If you don't agree . . . well then you have an extreme position that I'm not really interested in arguing about.

OK. Good. Now, then, why is an accused's drinking habits or propensity to drink to forgetfulness relevant as to whether or not he committed sexual assault? You may respond, "it's not, it's relevant to whether or not he would remember sexually assaulting someone" But this is just kicking the can down a bit, begging the question, really. Shouldn't there be evidence pointing to a sexual assault occurring in the first place?

I think there should be some evidence before we start thinking someone might have sexually assaulted someone else. If drinking habits are not relevant to ascertaining guilt, then they only serve as a way to smear the accused -just as sexual habits are used to smear the accuser.

I'm with you in the beginning bits, no question.

But the allegation involves heavy drinking. Were our suspect a heavy drinker, so much the better for the story.

There's no symmetry here. Were Ford a slut, so what? It is literally irrelevant to the plausibility of her claim.

I was a college drunkard, no doubt. I don't judge the man for that. The question is merely whether his reported behavior is plausible with the assault account or not. If so, a wee bit better for the allegation. Not a lot but some.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

It's starting to look like it is the FBI which has the biggest lesson to learn from this - namely not to let itself be turned into a pawn by the Judicial Committee or the White House.

 

[Belz...]

Oh it's simple. To be a hypocrite is to allege that one ought to do X while doing NOT X. Either your claim that one ought to do X is wrong or your failure to do X is wrong. Hence, the hypocrite is guaranteed to be in the wrong.

Clear, dear sir?

You... doe..... does not compute.. does not compute.... <BBZZZTTT SPARKS... BBZZTTTT.... EXPLODE>

 

[applecorped]

Lol

 

[Slings and Arrows]

If the Kavanaugh cheerleaders are reduced to "Ford slept with everyone, so it can't be rape when Brett wants his turn", we can safely say that they know they've lost.

No, but we can safely say that Kavanaugh will be confirmed this weekend.

"The White House announced early Thursday it has received the FBI’s investigation into Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, and is ‘fully confident’ he will be confirmed to the nation’s highest court."
-- Fox News (Oct 4, 2018)

 

[Belz...]

Lol

What, fun is banned, now?

 

[applecorped]

Elections have consequences, LOL. Ruth Bader Ginsburg is next. Buckle up

 

[The_Animus]

Sham investigation is a sham.

And once again Republicans don't care.

How many investigations were there for Benghazi again and how long did they take.

Pathetic

 

[quadraginta]

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Even the ABA arguably has a political bias. (I'm guessing that it skews left of the populace.)

<snip>

Why?

 

[quadraginta]

Technically she's nitpicking, not being pedantic. Nitpicking is when you are overly precise about relevant details. Pedantics is when you are overly precise about irrelevant details.

You nitpicker.

Are you sure he isn't being pedantic?

(Using his definition, of course. )

 

[Belz...]

I... I just don't know anymore.