The Behavior of UK Police officers.

[baron]

If you take from the fact that some RC institutions have been involved with abuse therefore means all Quakers, Presbyterians, Pentecostalists and Mormons are part of a Christian conspiracy then that is OK. The ignorance is that fundamentalist Sunni groups such as ISIS are keener on attacking Shia muslims (et al) than the 'West'. Islam is as diverse as Christianity. There is not a homogenous muslim ethnicity. Bad people do bad things. So yes there is a difference between referring to Catholics and referring to Islam, the comparator is either Wahabiist and Catholic, or Christian and Islam.

Well you made the comparison, not me, I merely commented on it. And I've always taken pains to differentiate flavours of Islam. I've talked at length about how the Muslim communities in the UK differ from those in the US in terms of religious belief and geographical origin.

 

[baron]

The traveller community are predominantly Catholic!

I know..?

 

[baron]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord's_Resistance_Army

The LRA are Catholic priests? What madness is this?

 

[Archie Gemmill Goal]

This is untrue. Commonwealth citizens e.g. India, Pakistan, Australia, Trinidad, Canada are allowed to vote. Also they are allowed to be MPs.

Yes, you're right. So that's a few tens of thousands eligible to vote each year. Basically Pakistanis and Malaysians.

 

[Baylor]

Indeed, and I googled the website "wakeupslave.com" which was on one of the dishonest videos Baylor linked to.

And came up with this - which fits with the general tone of that website - I genuinely wonder if the author is paranoid in the medical sense. It is incoherent and seemingly terrified, as well as complaining about persecution.

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Nice smear tactic. The video I linked to depicted video evidence without voice over narration or headlines telling you what to think. It's irrelevant if it a nutjob uploaded the video to his channel. Also, a lot of police shooting videos make it to nutty/conspiracy "police state" channels, so I suppose we should disregard them too.

 

[Archie Gemmill Goal]

Nice smear tactic.

Jeesus. We're through the looking glass now.

 

[Babbylonian]

As for the democracy doesn't work in a multi-ethnic country BS he would appear to be undermining his own supposed country and arguing that as a descendant of immigrants he shouldn't be allowed representation.

The United States doesn't even have only one "white" culture, as we're reminded every time someone demonizes southerners, coastal elites, city dwellers, etc.

Politically, and even culturally, I probably have far more in common with a new immigrant who lives within a half-mile of me than I do someone who lives 10 miles outside of my metropolitan area.

 

[Baylor]

The United States doesn't even have only one "white" culture, as we're reminded every time someone demonizes southerners, coastal elites, city dwellers, etc.

As the US becomes "less white," whites are becoming more of a cohesive voting bloc. Blacks and Hispanics, who otherwise loathe each other, are aligning politically against the whites. Hillary Clinton ignored lily white Wisconsin and it cost her the election. Expect New England to turn from blue to red as whites become more disaffected, while Arizona and Georgia to turn red to blue as more and more mystery meat ethnics pile up in those states.

In time, you'll see the same effect in UK. Heck you're seeing it now as the graphs I linked to demonstrate.

 

[Garrison]

So you couldn't be bothered to read the OP

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/18/communities-law-police-chief-winsor

I will admit I may have mistakenly though you had something new to offer, my mistake. Of course I followed your link and did what you apparently failed to do, read the rest of the article. if you had you would have seen that rest of what Winsor says doesn't support your interpretation of that eye-catching headline:

Winsor compared the situation in some parts of the UK to Northern Ireland during the Troubles, but said the difference now was that it was law-abiding citizens operating their only system of law, rather than criminal gangs.
He told the newspaper increased diversity in the police across all ranks could help tackle the situation, though he did not think there was "institutional racism" in the Metropolitan police.

 

[deadrose]

Spokane has gotten to be such an interesting place over the years. Such kind, charming people. There's a reason I stay on the other side of the state.

 

[p0lka]

This is so not a "gotcha!" Just because one part of a city is not occupied by immigrants doesn't mean all neighborhood are not lost. It's really not that hard to understand.

That sentence is incredibly hard to understand, get rid of the "nots" and type it again please?

 

[Andy_Ross]

That's why I said "won't go zones." Effectively the same thing. They conceded territory to the immigrants.

it doesn't say they 'won't go' it says that some residents don't report crime to the police.

That is true of a lot of areas and has nothing to do with the religion or ethnicity of the residents.

Visit Teesside and go to Park End, Whinneybanks, Eston, Southbank or Grangetown. There are no ethnic communities in these areas but they will not report crime to the police and will not help them.
They are not 'no-go' or 'won't go' areas, they are like the areas you are refusing to name suspicious of the police because they see them as a persecuting and repressive hostile authority.

 

[Babbylonian]

As the US becomes "less white," whites are becoming more of a cohesive voting bloc. Blacks and Hispanics, who otherwise loathe each other, are aligning politically against the whites. Hillary Clinton ignored lily white Wisconsin and it cost her the election. Expect New England to turn from blue to red as whites become more disaffected, while Arizona and Georgia to turn red to blue as more and more mystery meat ethnics pile up in those states.

In time, you'll see the same effect in UK. Heck you're seeing it now as the graphs I linked to demonstrate.

This is pure stupidity. My state, Oregon, is 83% white (next highest percentage is Hispanic at 11%) and the majority vote Democrat. Pretending that party affiliation is about race is something racists do. Wisconsin's white majority is even bigger at 86%. The idea that Hillary Clinton ignored white people there would make her stupid. She's not, and even if she were, you can bet that the people running her campaign understand the demographics better than you.

Also, "mystery meat ethnics?" You're disgusting on every level.

 

[Baylor]

I will admit I may have mistakenly though you had something new to offer, my mistake. Of course I followed your link and did what you apparently failed to do, read the rest of the article. if you had you would have seen that rest of what Winsor says doesn't support your interpretation of that eye-catching headline:

None of that contradicts what I said.

 

[Matthew Best]

I'm still waiting.

 

[Baylor]

Pretending that party affiliation is about race is something racists do.

2012 Presidential Election

 

[Garrison]

In time, you'll see the same effect in UK. Heck you're seeing it now as the graphs I linked to demonstrate.

You really are clueless about UK politics and demographics aren't you? You could wind those graphs back 30 years, 40 years and the relative ratios would be the same. There's a reason the C of E is referred to as the 'Tory party at prayer' and excellent reasons why ethnic minorities have voted Labour. If you actually bothered to do any real research you would see immigration policies over the last few decades have been designed to increasingly exclude immigrants from Britain's former empire, but hey that would require you to base your opinion on something more than shock headlines and deceptive YouTube videos.

 

[Planigale]

Well you made the comparison, not me, I merely commented on it. And I've always taken pains to differentiate flavours of Islam. I've talked at length about how the Muslim communities in the UK differ from those in the US in terms of religious belief and geographical origin.

So just proved your self wrong, You have just lumped all Muslims in the UK into one group! (Also all Muslims in the US). There are very disparate groups in the UK e.g. Professional middle class urban immigrants originally from Pakistan (such as my family) are very different from working class from tribal / rural areas of Pakistan, which are many of the groups in Northern mill towns such as Bradford. The long standing ex Somali Welsh population have been resident since the nineteenth century, the ex Ugandan Asians though originally from Pakistan are again a different group. East London has a huge Turkish Cypriot Muslim community.

PS If you think teenagers don't hang around Kebab shops you have never been in England.

 

[Baylor]

I'm still waiting.

You'll be waiting for a while. I have no interest in your photography.

 

[Garrison]

None of that contradicts what I said.

Actually it completely contradicts it, but you would have known that if you had bothered to read past the first sentence of the article.