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The Behavior of UK Police officers.

Quite right they should vote Labour.

Why would any sane person vote tory?
 
Baylor said:
Contact chief inspector of constabulary Tom Winsor for further information. Just to warn you, he did say he didn't want to name the "won't go zones" due to UK's draconian "hate speech"/blasphemy laws.
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That makes it look like you have no interest in examining the truth of the propaganda you are spouting. And it makes it look like he has convinced you that the truth doesn't really matter, anyway. Good con if you can find enough marks.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Quite right they should vote Labour.

Why would any sane person vote tory?
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And of course that graph ignores the actual numbers of voters in each group, I suspect the 'none' group that also favours Labour handily outnumbers the Muslims.
 
Dr. Keith said:
That makes it look like you have no interest in examining the truth of the propaganda you are spouting. And it makes it look like he has convinced you that the truth doesn't really matter, anyway. Good con if you can find enough marks.
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As I've said many times, apathy is a virtue in the UK. It's in British culture to put their head in the sand and pretend there is no problem, or simply "carry on," as they put it. When "skeptics" were confronted with a picture of British Police doing Jihadi hand gestures with a Muslim, the conditioning kicked in: deny, deny, deny. Also, the "racists" were right about grooming gangs. So it's not me who "has no interest in examining the truth." After reviewing the evidence, I believe Winsor over the tolerant, wordly, diversity-loving, Labour-voting "skeptics."
 
Captain_Swoop said:
That is not what he said at all.

Can you show me the exact quote.

He claimed that there were certain communities 'born under other skies' that 'preferred to police themselves'. He said they were not 'no go zones', but that in the absence of any contact between the persons who lived in such communities and the police, the police simply 'won't know what's going on'
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That's why I said "won't go zones." Effectively the same thing. They conceded territory to the immigrants.
 
Baylor said:
As I've said many times, apathy is a virtue in the UK.
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Constant repetition does not make it any truer than the first time you trotted it out. You've come out with an endless series of discredited claims and this is your desperate fallback position, no different from some 9/11 truther screaming about 'sheeple'.
 
Baylor said:
That's why I said "won't go zones." Effectively the same thing. They conceded territory to the immigrants.
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So your reading comprehension is so poor you can't tell the difference between 'won't go' and 'won't know what's going on'. :rolleyes:
 
Garrison said:
So your reading comprehension is so poor you can't tell the difference between 'won't GO' and 'won't know what's going on'. :rolleyes:
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"There are cities in the Midlands where the police never GO because they are never called. They never hear of any trouble because the community deals with that on its own ... They just have their own form of community justice."

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Garrison said:
Constant repetition does not make it any truer than the first time you trotted it out. You've come out with an endless series of discredited claims and this is your desperate fallback position, no different from some 9/11 truther screaming about 'sheeple'.
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Indeed, and I googled the website "wakeupslave.com" which was on one of the dishonest videos Baylor linked to.

And came up with this - which fits with the general tone of that website - I genuinely wonder if the author is paranoid in the medical sense. It is incoherent and seemingly terrified, as well as complaining about persecution.

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I presume for the purpose of this thread, the 'no go zones' are defined as no go zones for the police. I can list plenty of no go zones for 12 year old girls, most of them having a kebab house on every corner, but for the police I offer you... traveller sites. Some of these are genuine police no go zones and I have heard many accounts of the police refusing to chase criminals onto sites, recover stolen property from sites or indeed enforce the law in any meaningful way. There was a story not long ago about someone being shot at from a traveller site, with a similar refusal to act by the police. A woman local to where I used to live had the contents of her farm repeatedly robbed by pikeys, who would turn up with axes and lump hammers and take what they wanted, and the police repeatedly refused to act. When she herself armed herself with a legally held shot gun and called the police, the police turned up... and arrested her.
 
Baylor said:
"There are cities in the Midlands where the police never go because they are never called. They never hear of any trouble because the community deals with that on its own ... They just have their own form of community justice."

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Oh another uncited quote, well I'm convinced. And still not a won't go area. As someone who actually lives in the UK I take that quote as reflecting the fact that ethnic minorities have very little trust in the police. Oh and you've escalated from districts to whole cities now.
 
Baylor said:
Had you actually looked at the data you'd see Muslims are extremely more likely to vote Labour while non-Muslims are not.
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And? What would be your solution to this "problem?" Take away Muslims' right to vote? Which Labour supporters should be targeted after that?
 
baron said:
Quite right. A despicable situation that continued for decades unchecked, continues to this day, and resulted in tens of thousands of young boys and girls being molested and raped. The perpetrators were shielded by members of their own religious community and the authorities were, in many cases, reluctant to act because of the perceived privileged positions of those involved. It's a decent enough analogy.

So how is it that a person can speak all day about the perversions and sickness of the Catholic hierarchy without fear of controversy, and how come it's seen as a virtuous position to take and one which mainstream media, and leftist opinion, positively courts? Because when a person speaks about the Muslim grooming scandal, which in the UK at least has had a far greater impact, they are jeered at, condemned and called bigots and racists. I've watched a good many debates on the Catholic sex abuse scandal and not once have I seen some self-absorbed joker pop up and say, "Yeah yeah, but what about the Muslims?" to hoots and cheers from his like-minded audience apologists.
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If you take from the fact that some RC institutions have been involved with abuse therefore means all Quakers, Presbyterians, Pentecostalists and Mormons are part of a Christian conspiracy then that is OK. The ignorance is that fundamentalist Sunni groups such as ISIS are keener on attacking Shia muslims (et al) than the 'West'. Islam is as diverse as Christianity. There is not a homogenous muslim ethnicity. Bad people do bad things. So yes there is a difference between referring to Catholics and referring to Islam, the comparator is either Wahabiist and Catholic, or Christian and Islam.
 
Archie Gemmill Goal said:
Was someone really stupid enough to try to draw an equivalence between the Catholic Church and Muslims? Gee Whizz.
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Whilst the molestation and rapes by the Catholic priests were despicable, the perpetrators to my knowledge never murdered girls, strangled them unconscious, branded them with red hot irons, poured petrol over them, nailed their tongues to benches, fire bombed their homes and had them gang raped by 30 men in a single evening, all the while telling their victims, some 11 years old, that they were white slags and that they would rape and murder their mothers and sisters. Because that's what you meant, right?
 
Archie Gemmill Goal said:
As a 'disaffected white' I'd like to point out that I have less chance of voting Tory than Baylor does of finding his backside with both hands.

It might also be worth pointing out that non-EU immigrants (i.e. everyone from a majority Muslim country) aren't allowed to vote here until they get citizenship.

As for the democracy doesn't work in a multi-ethnic country BS he would appear to be undermining his own supposed country and arguing that as a descendant of immigrants he shouldn't be allowed representation.
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This is untrue. Commonwealth citizens e.g. India, Pakistan, Australia, Trinidad, Canada are allowed to vote. Also they are allowed to be MPs.

(Because unlike those traitorous treasonous slave owning rebels in the US they are loyal to Her Majesty).
 
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baron said:
Whilst the molestation and rapes by the Catholic priests were despicable, the perpetrators to my knowledge never murdered girls, strangled them unconscious, branded them with red hot irons, poured petrol over them, nailed their tongues to benches, fire bombed their homes and had them gang raped by 30 men in a single evening, all the while telling their victims, some 11 years old, that they were white slags and that they would rape and murder their mothers and sisters. Because that's what you meant, right?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord's_Resistance_Army
 
baron said:
I presume for the purpose of this thread, the 'no go zones' are defined as no go zones for the police. I can list plenty of no go zones for 12 year old girls, most of them having a kebab house on every corner, but for the police I offer you... traveller sites. Some of these are genuine police no go zones and I have heard many accounts of the police refusing to chase criminals onto sites, recover stolen property from sites or indeed enforce the law in any meaningful way. There was a story not long ago about someone being shot at from a traveller site, with a similar refusal to act by the police. A woman local to where I used to live had the contents of her farm repeatedly robbed by pikeys, who would turn up with axes and lump hammers and take what they wanted, and the police repeatedly refused to act. When she herself armed herself with a legally held shot gun and called the police, the police turned up... and arrested her.
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The traveller community are predominantly Catholic! ETA (Also white and probably have very similar views to Baylor)
 
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