Merged Onesimpleprinciple predicting the flow of Dark?

[Pixie of key]

You're the only one talking about gods, so again the problem remains simply yours. Again cosmological expansion is being tested in a "science way".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tolman_surface_brightness_test

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expansion_of_the_universe#Observational_evidence

Yes, there is cosmological expansion, but it is not space which expanding!!!

There is no evidence for expanding space!!

Just evidence for expanding nucleus of atoms which recycling expanding pushing force which have nature of expanding light.
Expanding light moving faster and faster same way what matter and light expanding.

 

[Pixie of key]

The time that predicts.

The Indonesian earthquake and the Tsunami.

Was it an energypulse from space?

Predict that the next six months and appears to abnormally intense normal hurricanes and / or tornadoes

This was the case after the 2004 Asian tsunami and after the 2011 Tsunami in Japan.

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[The Man]

Yes, there is cosmological expansion, but it is not space which expanding!!!

There is no evidence for expanding space!!

Just evidence for expanding nucleus of atoms which recycling expanding pushing force which have nature of expanding light.
Expanding light moving faster and faster same way what matter and light expanding.

Nope, expanding atoms would increase electron orbital distances reducing bound state energies and ionization energies, which ain't happening and would be easily detectable.

Again, "light moving faster and faster" would alter the frequency to wavelength relation. Also easily detectable and ain't happening.

Again, having both your "matter and light expanding" means that you wouldn't measure the change in wavelength due to that "matter and light expanding". Since we do measure such change in wavelength (redshifting) means your "matter and light expanding" can not be the cause of that expansion.

 

[The Man]

The time that predicts.

The Indonesian earthquake and the Tsunami.

Was it an energypulse from space?

Predict that the next six months and appears to abnormally intense normal hurricanes and / or tornadoes

This was the case after the 2004 Asian tsunami and after the 2011 Tsunami in Japan.

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So, have you actually tried that rope experiment yet?


If not, why not?


If so, why haven't you reported what you found?

It would clearly demonstrate the difference between pulling and pushing forces. Particularly on materials that, well, react differently to such differing forces.

How do the observations of that experiment support your "point of view", particularly about there being no pulling forces.

Anteeksi en voi edes jäsentää sitä viimeistä bittiä.

Joten, oletko todella kokeillut tätä köysikokeilua vielä?


Jos ei, miksi ei?


Jos on, niin miksi et ilmoittanut, mitä löysit?

Se osoittaisi selkeästi vetovoiman ja työntövoimien välisen eron. Erityisesti materiaaleista, jotka hyvin reagoivat eri tavoin eriarvoisiin voimavaroihin.

Kuinka tämän kokeilun havainnot tukevat sinun "näkökulmastasi", etenkään siitä, että ei ole vetovoimia.

 

[Pixie of key]

even the middle-minded thinkers have come up with the reasons why the Earth can not rotate around its axis and therefore the Earth can not move around the Sun.

In their opinion, their reasoning proved that the Earth could not move around the Sun.

But yes it is capable, though it simultaneously expands and protrudes on a curved path away from the expanding Sun.

by the way

The expanding nuclei of nuclei do not rotate any expanding electrons.

the expanding nucleus of the atom exposes the expanding waves consisting of separate extensible perspiration from the zibbon, combining under suitable conditions new expanding photons and often also new expanding electrons.

maakeskisesti ajatelleet keksivät myös vaikka minkälaisia syitä minkä takia Maa ei voi pyöriä akselinsa ympäri ja minkä takia Maapallo ei voi liikkua Auringon ympäri.

Omasta mielestään heidän päättelynsä todisti aukottomasti ettei Maa pysty liikkumaan Auringon ympäri.

Mutta kyllä se pystyy, tosin se samanaikaisesti laajenee ja työntyy kaarevalla radalla pois päin laajenevasta Auringosta.

by the way

Laajenevia atomien ytimiä ei kierrä yhtään laajenevaa elektronia.

laajenevasta atomin ytimestä työntyy ulos laajenevia aaltoja jotka koostuvat ziljoonista erillisistä laajenevista tihentymistä joista yhdistyy sopivissa olosuhteissa uusia laajenevia fotoneita ja usein myös uusia laajenevia elektroneja.

 

[The Man]

even the middle-minded thinkers have come up with the reasons why the Earth can not rotate around its axis and therefore the Earth can not move around the Sun.

In their opinion, their reasoning proved that the Earth could not move around the Sun.

But yes it is capable, though it simultaneously expands and protrudes on a curved path away from the expanding Sun.

by the way

Nope, "a curved path away from the expanding Sun." would not be an orbit around the sun (such orbits are also a bound energy state). Much like those "middle-minded thinkers" you are now claiming the Earth doesn't orbit the sun.

The expanding nuclei of nuclei do not rotate any expanding electrons.

the expanding nucleus of the atom exposes the expanding waves consisting of separate extensible perspiration from the zibbon, combining under suitable conditions new expanding photons and often also new expanding electrons.

maakeskisesti ajatelleet keksivät myös vaikka minkälaisia syitä minkä takia Maa ei voi pyöriä akselinsa ympäri ja minkä takia Maapallo ei voi liikkua Auringon ympäri.

Omasta mielestään heidän päättelynsä todisti aukottomasti ettei Maa pysty liikkumaan Auringon ympäri.

Mutta kyllä se pystyy, tosin se samanaikaisesti laajenee ja työntyy kaarevalla radalla pois päin laajenevasta Auringosta.

by the way

Laajenevia atomien ytimiä ei kierrä yhtään laajenevaa elektronia.

laajenevasta atomin ytimestä työntyy ulos laajenevia aaltoja jotka koostuvat ziljoonista erillisistä laajenevista tihentymistä joista yhdistyy sopivissa olosuhteissa uusia laajenevia fotoneita ja usein myös uusia laajenevia elektroneja.

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Who said it would "rotate any expanding electrons"? Arguing against claims not made does not help you.

However, an expanding atom would mean the electron orbital radii expand and that changes bound state energy.

Those "middle-minded thinkers" you mention and emulate above simply didn't understand the applicable physics involved as you clearly don't. Time to get out of your "middle-minded" thinking a try to learn the physics you need to apply.

 

[Porpoise of Life]

I don't speak Finnish, but I'm assuming you're both quoting the Kalevala.
I think a magical Sampo is more likely than Pixie's theories being correct.

 

[Pixie of key]

Nope, "a curved path away from the expanding Sun." would not be an orbit around the sun (such orbits are also a bound energy state). Much like those "middle-minded thinkers" you are now claiming the Earth doesn't orbit the sun.




Who said it would "rotate any expanding electrons"? Arguing against claims not made does not help you.

However, an expanding atom would mean the electron orbital radii expand and that changes bound state energy.

Those "middle-minded thinkers" you mention and emulate above simply didn't understand the applicable physics involved as you clearly don't. Time to get out of your "middle-minded" thinking a try to learn the physics you need to apply.

"However, an expanding atom would mean the electron orbital radii expand and that changes bound state energy."

Nope!!!

Onesimpleprinciple is too much for you.

You cant handle it!

 

[Pixie of key]

MUSE spectrograph reveals that nearly the entire sky in the early Universe is glowing with Lyman-alpha emission

https://m.phys.org/news/2018-10-muse-spectrograph-reveals-entire-sky.html

"An unexpected abundance of Lyman-alpha emission in the Hubble Ultra Deep Field (HUDF) region was discovered by an international team of astronomers using the MUSE instrument on ESO's Very Large Telescope (VLT. The discovered emission covers nearly the entire field of view—leading the team to extrapolate that almost all of the sky is invisibly glowing with Lyman-alpha emission from the early Universe.

Astronomers have long been accustomed to the sky looking wildly different at different wavelengths, but the extent of the observed Lyman-alpha emission was still surprising. "Realising that the whole sky glows in optical when observing the Lyman-alpha emission from distant clouds of hydrogen was a literally eye-opening surprise," explained Kasper Borello Schmidt, a member of the team of astronomers behind this result."

Galaxys born inside to outside!!!

First born supermassive concentration which expanding and emit dark matter which also expanding and with other supermassive clncentration dark matter both dark matter start expanding very very fast and then born new expanding stars with out pulling force and with out curving space.

 

[The Man]

I don't speak Finnish, but I'm assuming you're both quoting the Kalevala.
I think a magical Sampo is more likely than Pixie's theories being correct.

Never heard of the Kalevala and having now looked it up it certainly is far more interesting than Pixie's assertions.

 

[The Man]

"However, an expanding atom would mean the electron orbital radii expand and that changes bound state energy."

Nope!!!

Yep, remember your "curved path away from the expanding Sun" for the Earth? Similarly the orbiting electron would have to take a "curved path away from the expanding" nucleus. That is of course unless you are going to claim the nucleus expands but the electron orbitals don't. Which would eliminate the "curved path away" for the electrons but give you other problem instead. Like your atoms and thus matter not expanding, as you have asserted. Your very assertion of an "expanding Sun" means the atoms and thus electron orbital of those atoms must be expanding. If you just don't like the physical implications of your assertions then I would recommend you endeavor to make better assertion.

Onesimpleprinciple is too much for you.

You cant handle it!

Again, not in the least. I'd expect you could "handle it" better yourself with some basic physics education but for whatever reason you simply choose not to do so. Heck, even without some basic physics education just the self-contradictory nature of your own assertions puts the kibosh on your own assertions. This 'everything's expanding but we don't directly detect it' tripe basically just handles itself and has for the couple or so decades that it's been around.

 

[Reality Check]

15th June 2009: Pixie of Key is a Finnish physics crackpot with no known mathematical ability, little knowledge of physics shown, lots of hand waving and some primitive videos.
1 October 2014 The Man: For explanation of and observational evidence for, see the metric expansion of space.

A growing list of ignorance, gibberish, lies, insults and delusions:
lies about science being a religion,
a lie of no observations for expanding space ,
an irrational demand for the impossible direct measurement of the curvature of spacetime,
a lie that pulling forces have not been measured,
repeated idiocy of quoting obviously deluded and irrelevant comments on blogs,
ignorant delusion that gravity does not have an inverse square law,
a total delusion that supermassive black holes emit dark matter,
a repeated lie that Stephen Hawking did not understand basic physics (gravity ),
a lie that people here have not explained expanding spacetime to him,
repeatedly asks obviously deluded or answered questions to waste the time of other posters,
repeated lie that science articles are about his delusions,
a lie of space not curving when the tests of GR pass with curving spacetime.
a delusion that space must "radiate information" to detect expansion
a lie of a prediction for "Jupiter's red spot getting taller as it shrinks"
a "Jupiter great red spot get more stronger" lie when it has been shrinking
insanity that sunspots and Jupiter's red spot have the same cause
insanity of "expanding nucleus" gibberish explaining Venus' mysterious night side (weather!)
"atoms expanding" delusions about Jupiter's north pole
3 lies of explaining redshifts or gravitational lensing.
delusions about an expanding Saturn, etc.
insane gibberish about thunderstorms.
delusions about wounds healing
deluded, lying "For The Man from international SKEPTICS forum" video
An insane video sparked by a word in Dan Brown's book
Insane expanding Earth/Sun/supermassive/etc. gibberish meaning nothing.
A spate of spamming the thread with insane and irrelevant gibberish about science articles.
Insults the intelligence of other posters !
The physical insanity of "expanding electrons", e.g. violates SR !
Repeated stupidity that his ignorant gibberish is "too much" for readers of this thread.
An idiotic "gods like expanding space and curving space" lie
"I predict that we can manipulate billions years old expanding light moving direction with other billion years old expanding light" stupidity.
A "the case of dark waves of expanding light has already been proven" lie
An insane demand that an expanding universe be explained with one word.
Persistent lie that no one can tell how the universe is expanding
Repeated lie that I and others have not tried to explain the expansion of the universe.
Insanity of weather being created by "the expanding Earth's center".
"Expanding light waves is dark for us" insanity.
"entropy ... inside quarks and photons too" insanity

 

[Pixie of key]

The Man write

"Yep, remember your "curved path away from the expanding "Sun" for the Earth? Similarly the orbiting electron would have to take a "curved path away from the expanding" nucleus."

The Man, you have totally wrong picture Onesimpleprinciple

Think of one of the expanding atoms core in space far from other.

it has no electrons around it. even if it is a heavy atom's core.

It recycling expanding pushing force all a time.

but if you go to it and send it to a suitable photon of energy, that photon interacts with the expanding pushing force that comes out of the expanding core. and it generates a new expanding electron. now you think you got the atom out of the electron. you really got the birth of a new electron.

Try first understund my ideas right way!!!

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[The Man]

The Man write

"Yep, remember your "curved path away from the expanding "Sun" for the Earth? Similarly the orbiting electron would have to take a "curved path away from the expanding" nucleus."

The Man, you have totally wrong picture Onesimpleprinciple

Pixie of key, you have no understanding of atoms.

Think of one of the expanding atoms core in space far from other.

If you are trying to talk about the nucleus of an atom then just say nucleus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_nucleus

it has no electrons around it. even if it is a heavy atom's core.

But an atom does have electrons around the nucleus, that's what makes it and atom. Again if your are going to claim that just your atomic "core" expands that is going to give you other problems.

It recycling expanding pushing force all a time.

but if you go to it and send it to a suitable photon of energy, that photon interacts with the expanding pushing force that comes out of the expanding core. and it generates a new expanding electron. now you think you got the atom out of the electron. you really got the birth of a new electron.

Try first understund my ideas right way!!!

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There is no "right way" about your ideas, other than just fantasy. Photo ionisation (what you try to portray above) is not the only interaction of electrons in atoms. The entire field of chemistry and the majority of mechanics of material exemplify and experimentally verify electron orbitals and electron sharing in atoms (as well as weaker inter atomic bonding forces due to the presence of electrons). That have absolutely nothing to do with the simple photo emission of an electron.

First try to understand some physics, at all.

 

[Pixie of key]

"But an atom does have electrons around the nucleus, that's what makes it and atom. Again if your are going to claim that just your atomic "core" expands that is going to give you other problems."

It is not just nucleus of atoms which expanding!

Ofcourse also that pushing force, which moving between expanding nucleus of atoms, expanding all a time.

"Photo ionisation (what you try to portray above) is not the only interaction of electrons in atoms. The entire field of chemistry and the majority of mechanics of material exemplify and experimentally verify electron orbitals and electron sharing in atoms (as well as weaker inter atomic bonding forces due to the presence of electrons)."

Expanding nucleus of atoms sharing expanding pushing force all a time.

This happening because expanding nucleus of atoms recycling expanding pushing force all a time.

There born new expanding electrons and die right away, when pushing that way where is next expanding nuclei of atom.

New expanding electron interactive with expanding pushing force which pushing out from expanding nuclei and then born new expanding electron which moving that way where is next expanding nuclei etc.

Every time when born new expanding electron, "old"one die and that old one was verynew one, becauce is just born.

So, there born new electron all a time, but right way that new electron die, but same time born new one because expanding electron interactive with expanding pushing force.

 

[The Man]

"But an atom does have electrons around the nucleus, that's what makes it and atom. Again if your are going to claim that just your atomic "core" expands that is going to give you other problems."

It is not just nucleus of atoms which expanding!

Great so the electron orbitals have to be expanding as well, as I said before.

Ofcourse also that pushing force, which moving between expanding nucleus of atoms, expanding all a time.

Forces don't 'expand', they have no spatial dimensions.

"Photo ionisation (what you try to portray above) is not the only interaction of electrons in atoms. The entire field of chemistry and the majority of mechanics of material exemplify and experimentally verify electron orbitals and electron sharing in atoms (as well as weaker inter atomic bonding forces due to the presence of electrons)."

Expanding nucleus of atoms sharing expanding pushing force all a time.'

Agian, forces don't 'expand', they have no spatial dimensions.

This happening because expanding nucleus of atoms recycling expanding pushing force all a time.

Forces aren't 'recycled' because they are not something that is cast away and just waiting to be reused.

There born new expanding electrons and die right away, when pushing that way where is next expanding nuclei of atom.

New expanding electron interactive with expanding pushing force which pushing out from expanding nuclei and then born new expanding electron which moving that way where is next expanding nuclei etc.

Every time when born new expanding electron, "old"one die and that old one was verynew one, becauce is just born.

So, there born new electron all a time, but right way that new electron die, but same time born new one because expanding electron interactive with expanding pushing force.

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OK, again great, so your immediately die then immediately reborn then immediately die then immediately reborn... electron is indistinguishable form an electron that just doesn't die at all. This just makes your dying all the time / reborn all the time electron irrelevant. As I said before this stuff just handles itself right into irrelevance.

 

[Pixie of key]

"Great so the electron orbitals have to be expanding as well, as I said before."

There is no electrons which have orbital.

There is just "orbitals" where new photons and new electrons can born.

 

[Pixie of key]

"OK, again great, so your immediately die then immediately reborn"

It is not reborn.

"old" electron is destroyed in parts that continue its journey towards the expanding atom core.

the new expanding electron emerged from the expanding pushing force that protrudes from the expanding atomic nucleus and continues toward the core of the second expanding atom.

interacts with the pushing force which pushing out that expanding nuclei and generates a new expanding electron. and it itself will be destroyed etc.

 

[The Man]

"Great so the electron orbitals have to be expanding as well, as I said before."

There is no electrons which have orbital.

There is just "orbitals" where new photons and new electrons can born.

Great so still orbitals and still related to the electrons, regardless of what you want to claim the electrons are doing in them. Are your orbitals expanding or not?

 

[Pixie of key]

Great so still orbitals and still related to the electrons, regardless of what you want to claim the electrons are doing in them. Are your orbitals expanding or not?

There is nucleus of atoms which expanding all a time.

There is expanding pushing force which pushing out from expanding nucleus of atoms and that expanding pushing force have a nature of expanding pushing force waves.

So, ofcourse this expanding waves, which pushing away from ecpanding nucleus of atoms, are same way faraway from expanding nucleus of atoms, what waves already are expanding.