New SCOTUS Judge II: The Wrath of Kavanaugh

It appears that Kavanaugh omitted another salient fact. It's not just beer that he likes but 'red red wine'.
 
The Big Dog said:
At this point anyone who claimed he was lying about the drinking age is flat out lying themselves
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He deliberately mislead congress about whether he was of legal drinking age, which speaks to his lack of honesty in these hearings. How is this in any doubt whatsoever?
 
carlitos said:
One problem I have is that much of the news coverage is conflating "blackout" with "pass out." Like "gee I never saw Brett black out." You literally can't see someone "black out" -- that's the point, they do things and don't remember them afterwards because their memory is "blacked out" for that time period. Passing out is visible and obvious, and you can't really do anything regrettable while passed out, other than get embarrassing photos taken of yourself. Which is why I will never be a supreme court judge.
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I agree with this entirely. IMV, blacking out is not something one does consciously and is apparent to anyone at the time including the person it happens to. What it is, is not having a memory of the events. Walking around in a daze. It's the day after when your friends say you did things without any memory of it.

Now I'm a teetotaler. I haven't had a drink for a decade and few even before that. I'd say I've been actually intoxicated less than 10 times in my life and probably 8 of those times were in college. And me with my limited drinking experience has 'blacked out'. I know this because friends told me I did things I couldn't remember. I don't buy it that a heavy partier didn't have these kinds of experiences.
 
acbytesla said:
I just read the Wikipedia entry for 'asterisk'. And you are right. It is used for emphasis. That is during the Middle Ages.
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Middle ages?

Quoth the wiki:
Asterisks can be used in textual media to represent *emphasis* when bold or italic text is not available (e.g., Twitter, text messaging).
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acbytesla said:
Now I'm a teetotaler. I haven't had a drink for a decade and few even before that. I'd say I've been actually intoxicated less than 10 times in my life and probably 8 of those times were in college.
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I have that beat. I've never been intoxicated. Disliking the taste of alcohol or the very idea of having reduced faculties sure helps.
 
Meadmaker said:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

If you tried to secure a conviction in a non-political situation (i.e. an actual criminal trial, as opposed to an impeachment proceeding) it would be thrown out as a politically motivated selective prosecution.


The sexual assault allegations are different, but the drinking statements could never be prosecuted as perjury.
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You still don't get it. The drinking ties to the whole business at hand. He is alleged to be a mean drunk, in that his attempted rape and other acts occured while under the influence. His minimizing his drinking is an attempt to refute the charges by claiming to never have been in such a state to have done something so awful.

And so his alcohol consumption goes directly to the heart of the matter. It's a material factor about which dissembling is perjurious.
 
varwoche said:
Regarding the date on Kavanagh's calendar that could be the date in question, and the rebuttal (paraphrasing)... there are more boys listed on Kavanaugh's calendar than Ford claimed were at the gathering, hence it contradicts Ford's claim.

Brace yourself and please give your full attention, this is a complex concept: People may have arrived at the gathering after Ford left.
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Even more complex: The listed persons could have been at "Timmy's" and then SOME of them could have gone on to another location to continue partying. Ford claimed Kavanaugh and Judge were already quite drunk. She did not, obviously, know where they had done all this drinking.
 
acbytesla said:
This all doesn't really matter and is a derail.
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Indeed, this is all distracting from the fact that TBD dishonestly truncated the quote. He turned this:

On one of the last occasions I purposely socialized with Brett, I witnessed him respond to a semi-hostile remark, not by defusing the situation, but by throwing his beer in the man’s face and starting a fight that ended with one of our mutual friends in jail.
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Into this:

On one of the last occasions I purposely socialized with Brett, I witnessed him respond to a semi-hostile remark, not by defusing the situation.
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And then acted like it was "not defusing the situation" that people were criticizing him for.
 
sylvan8798 said:
Even more complex: The listed persons could have been at "Timmy's" and then SOME of them could have gone on to another location to continue partying. Ford claimed Kavanaugh and Judge were already quite drunk. She did not, obviously, know where they had done all this drinking.
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Problem; one of them was her boyfriend.

So we are supposed to believe she did not know her boyfriend was at the party and that note does not refresh her memory where the 'party" was?

Bull ****
 
phunk said:
Indeed, this is all distracting from the fact that TBD dishonestly truncated the quote. He turned this:



Into this:



And then acted like it was "not defusing the situation" that people were criticizing him for.
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*k*

:rolleyes:
 
This thread is moving so fast so I'm not sure if I've overlooked it...

From: http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/polit...before-it-became-public/ar-BBNOH2l?ocid=ientp
In the days leading up to a public allegation that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh exposed himself to a college classmate, the judge and his team were communicating behind the scenes with friends to refute the claim, according to text messages obtained by NBC News.... The texts also demonstrate that Kavanaugh and Ramirez were more socially connected than previously understood and that Ramirez was uncomfortable around Kavanaugh when they saw each other at a wedding 10 years after they graduated. Berchem's efforts also show that some potential witnesses have been unable to get important information to the FBI.... Berchem’s memo outlining her correspondence with Yarasavage shows there’s a circle of Kavanaugh friends who may have pertinent information and evidence relevant to the inquiry who may not be interviewed.

First of all, I know its not a criminal trial, but if Kavanaugh and his associates are trying to contact former friends, wouldn't that be the moral equivalent of "witness tampering"? (Not sure what the legality is here if its not a criminal trial, whether it would still be considered criminal.)

Secondly... the fact that Kavanaugh felt it necessary to contact people before the allegations were made public AND the fact that one of the victims didn't want to be around Kavanaugh when they were at the same wedding lends credibility to show that Kavaaugh did act inappropriately towards her.

I certainly do hope the FBI is able to actually interview some of these people that may be potential witnesses (whether their failure to do so is because of mistakes by the FBI or interference by the republicans needs to be figured out.)
 
Samson said:
"I was surprised at how vocal he was about the fact that he likes beer and he's had a little bit of difficulty, I mean, he talked about things that happened when he drank," Trump during a Rose Garden press conference Monday.

Trump will let him go. Trump doesn't drink, did not realise he nominated an arrogant drunk.
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Bet you a quarter.
 
Segnosaur said:
Secondly... the fact that Kavanaugh felt it necessary to contact people before the allegations were made public AND the fact that one of the victims didn't want to be around Kavanaugh when they were at the same wedding lends credibility to show that Kavaaugh did act inappropriately towards her.
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Nonsense. Ten years ago is not today, and ten years ago was not 1982. Ergo you can ignore all of this. Confirm now!
 
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