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[theprestige]

The more I think about it, the more I think these allegations aren't about Kavanaugh, they're about Trump and the GOP.

If the allegations were about Kavanaugh, his accusers would have gone to the police long since. Ford wouldn't just have written a letter to Congress, she would have written a letter to every employer he ever applied to work for.

Though, can you imagine?

To whom it may concern,

You don't know me, but I'm pretty sure I knew Brett Kavanaugh in high school. In fact, I'm pretty sure we both got drunk at a high school party and he sexually assaulted me. It didn't get very far before he gave up, but I was really scared at the time.

I have decided not to press charges - actually, I haven't even gone to the police. However, I am hopeful that you will take this information into account when considering whether to give Kavanaugh a judgeship.

Probably,

Christine Ford

P.S. Please understand that I wish to keep my name out of this matter.​

 

[carlitos]

Errr... not really. The theory that Kavanaugh was accused only because it was closer to mid terms has some problems:

Those aren't problems at all. Sleeper sex assault claimants is nothing compared to Manchurian Kenyan presidential candidates. They could be an army of them out there. It's like that show The Americans with deep cover spy sleeper cells. The Deep State has sex assault claimants making claims to therapists after they attend campuses near the big prep schools in case those prep boys make it into power. You really only have to target a few key schools and fraternities to make this strategy work.

 

[Tsukasa Buddha]

So Avenatti's client will be made public on probably Wednesday:

Michael Avenatti, the lawyer who says he has "credible information" about more sexual misconduct allegations against Brett Kavanaugh, said Monday that he expects his new client will appear for an on-camera interview within the next 48 hours.

Avenatti told The Hill that he anticipates his client will go public with her accusation against the Supreme Court nominee in a television interview within the next two days.

Linky.

Meanwhile Kavanaugh is going on FOX tonight:

Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, in a tearful interview on Monday, said he is "not going anywhere" as two allegations of sexual misconduct roil his path to the high court.

Kavanaugh added he will not be driven "out of this process" in a Fox News Channel clip released on Monday.

"I’m not going to let false accusations drive us out of this process," he said, sitting beside his wife as she nods.

"We’re looking for a fair process where I can be heard, defending my integrity, my lifelong record … of promoting dignity and equality for women, starting with the women who knew me when I was 14 years old."

"I'm not going anywhere," he added with emotion.

Linky.

And another non-update from Collins acting like she is willfully ignorant about overturning Roe. But interestingly this was on Saturday, and she hasn't made any comments today on the new news.

Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) says she doesn’t believe Brett Kavanaugh will overturn a landmark abortion ruling if he’s confirmed to the Supreme Court.

"Well first of all I do not believe he's going to repeal Roe v. Wade," Collins told Showtime’s "The Circus," when asked about how she could potentially be "the vote" that puts Kavanaugh on the court and leads to the landmark 1973 case being repealed.

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A clip of Collins’s interview was published on Twitter on Monday, but her spokeswoman said the interview took place on Friday, before a bombshell New Yorker report over the weekend that revealed a second allegation of sexual misconduct against Kavanaugh.

Collins at the time of the interview told Showtime that she was “very close” to making a decision.

“How could I decide before hearing the testimony of Professor Ford. ...I'm close I'm very close but I'm not all the way there yet,” Collins said, referring to the woman who has accused Kavanaugh of sexual assault in the early 1980s.

The New Yorker article, published on Sunday evening, reported that Senate Democrats are investigating a second sexual misconduct allegation dating back to Kavanaugh’s freshman year at Yale University. Kavanaugh has denied wrongdoing.

Collins declined to comment to reporters about Kavanaugh on Monday.

Linky.

 

[theprestige]

Also, what's the moral here? Don't go to the police if someone victimizes you. Instead, if you keep quiet for thirty years, maybe they'll come before a Congressional confirmation committee, and the FBI will have to investigate accusations that should have been investigated thirty years ago.

And if they don't ever get nominated to high federal office? No big deal. It's not like you ever really wanted that investigation anyway.

 

[Shalamar]

So once having had a president who is alleged to be a rapist makes it OK to appoint another alleged rapist to the supreme court? I'm not sure I follow the logic there.

In the mind of the conservatives, it’s only bad if a liberal/democrat does it.

 

[Segnosaur]

Wait, I thought you were in favor of investigating?

I've stated my opinion several times, and it's right here. in post count 1491.

I (and I assume others) don't believe you.

Its been pointed out multiple times that its the republicans who are blocking FBI investigations. Its been pointed out that the republicans are the ones blocking having witnesses testify.

Your response to that: Just cram the nomination through.

If you really wanted an investigation you would not be directing your criticism at Fienstien or Ford. You would not be saying "vote to confirm now and get rid of him later if needed". You would instead be criticizing the republicans, suggesting that these issues be dealt with properly (through a complete investigation).

I think you are A-Ok of a rapist gets appointed to the supreme court and gets to rule on women's rights... and all your comments about how "it should be investigated" are just window dressing.

 

[johnny karate]

Also, what's the moral here? Don't go to the police if someone victimizes you. Instead, if you keep quiet for thirty years, maybe they'll come before a Congressional confirmation committee, and the FBI will have to investigate accusations that should have been investigated thirty years ago.

And if they don't ever get nominated to high federal office? No big deal. It's not like you ever really wanted that investigation anyway.

No, that isn’t the moral here.

 

[Segnosaur]

The more I think about it, the more I think these allegations aren't about Kavanaugh, they're about Trump and the GOP.

Actually I'd say they're about both.

Yes, it IS about Kavanaugh. Most people (well, except for republicans) don't want a rapist on the supreme court ruling on woman's rights. You seem to have no problem with that.

If it is about Trump and the GOP, its to the effect that "Do you really want people who think sexual assault is A-OK to be in charge? But that doesn't mean that the primary focus (a supreme court judge with a history of rape) isn't the more pressing concern.

If the allegations were about Kavanaugh, his accusers would have gone to the police long since.

Its been pointed out multiple times that roughly 2/3rds of rape are never reported. Not sure why you think that some young girl who gets molested at a party would be any different.

 

[crescent]

The more I think about it, the more I think these allegations aren't about Kavanaugh, they're about Trump and the GOP.

If the allegations were about Kavanaugh, his accusers would have gone to the police long since. Ford wouldn't just have written a letter to Congress, she would have written a letter to every employer he ever applied to work for.

Though, can you imagine?

To whom it may concern,

You don't know me, but I'm pretty sure I knew Brett Kavanaugh in high school. In fact, I'm pretty sure we both got drunk at a high school party and he sexually assaulted me. It didn't get very far before he gave up, but I was really scared at the time.

I have decided not to press charges - actually, I haven't even gone to the police. However, I am hopeful that you will take this information into account when considering whether to give Kavanaugh a judgeship.

Probably,

Christine Ford

P.S. Please understand that I wish to keep my name out of this matter.

Edited to reflect something much closer to what she has actually said.

Also, as others have stated, as has been stated for YEARS and YEARS and YEARS to ANYONE WHO HAS PAID the SLIGHTEST ATTENTION: Most rape and sexual assault victims never report the crime. That is normal - sad and depressing, but normal.



Once again it bears repeating her claim vs his. She claims to have had one beer at the party, she has not claimed to be drunk - that's a lie and a fabrication created by conservative media. Please quit repeating lies.

Kavanaugh, on the other hand, has made repeated references to heavy drinking in high school and college. His friend mentioned it in a book. Cavanaugh mentioned it in yearbook posts and speeches that he made. That's no lie, that's Cavanaughs own words.

 

[Segnosaur]

Also, what's the moral here? Don't go to the police if someone victimizes you. Instead, if you keep quiet for thirty years, maybe they'll come before a Congressional confirmation committee, and the FBI will have to investigate accusations that should have been investigated thirty years ago.

No, the moral SHOULD be "if you are assaulted you should report it. Earlier if better, but you should not be deterred even if you don't report it immediately. There is no shame in what happened to the victim".

The Moral that the republicans want to pass on: Rape is A-Ok, as long as its done by a privileged white guy.

And if they don't ever get nominated to high federal office? No big deal. It's not like you ever really wanted that investigation anyway.

Dealing with sexual assault is likely a traumatic circumstance, and not everyone deals with it.

The fact that Ford has decided to step forward (at the risk of public ridicule) is something that should be applauded.

Well, applauded by people who aren't happy about a potential rapist being on the supreme court.

 

[carlitos]

No one anywhere is saying that "Rape is A-Ok," jesus christ.

"Potential rapist" is like everybody, yeah?

 

[theprestige]

Its been pointed out multiple times that roughly 2/3rds of rape are never reported. Not sure why you think that some young girl who gets molested at a party would be any different.

I'm aware of the statistic. However, the statistic doesn't mean you get a free do-over thirty years later.

Especially do-overs with strategically impeccable partisan timing.

 

[theprestige]

No, the moral SHOULD be "if you are assaulted you should report it. Earlier if better, but you should not be deterred even if you don't report it immediately. There is no shame in what happened to the victim".

The Moral that the republicans want to pass on: Rape is A-Ok, as long as its done by a privileged white guy.

Dealing with sexual assault is likely a traumatic circumstance, and not everyone deals with it.

The fact that Ford has decided to step forward (at the risk of public ridicule) is something that should be applauded.

Well, applauded by people who aren't happy about a potential rapist being on the supreme court.

When is Ford going to press charges against Kavanaugh for sexual assault?

That's what stepping forward in spite of the risk means to me.

 

[crescent]

When is Ford going to press charges against Kavanaugh for sexual assault?

Does she have the slightest chance of obtaining a conviction? Probably not. Could she convince a DA to file charges? Probably not.

A background check is a much lower standard of evidence than a criminal conviction. The idea that she would press charges if she were telling the truth is a red herring. Should the FBI re-open the background check in light of new information being presented? They would have finished already if the President had authorized this when it first became public.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump tweets

"Brett Kavanaugh and his wife, Ashley, will be interviewed tonight at 7pmE on @marthamaccallum @FoxNews. This is an outstanding family who must be treated fairly!"

 

[johnny karate]

When is Ford going to press charges against Kavanaugh for sexual assault?

That's what stepping forward in spite of the risk means to me.

Survivors of rape and sexual assault, you’ve been put on notice.

 

[Tsukasa Buddha]

Collins now saying the second accuser should testify, but not on Thursday.

“I believe that the committee investigators should reach out to Deborah Ramirez to question her under oath about what she is alleging happened,” Collins told reporters, when asked what she made of the latest allegation against Kavanaugh.

Asked if she believed Ramirez should appear at a Judiciary Committee hearing scheduled for Thursday, Collins added that she didn’t.

“No because there hasn’t even been an interview of her yet and I think that needs to take place first,” Collins said.

Linky.

Republicans were really pushing for a vote ASAP after Thursday. She isn't threatening to vote "no" over this, like Flake did with the first accusation. My reading of this is she still wants to vote "yes" on Kavanaugh.

 

[Stacyhs]

It's not the FBI's job to investigate. That's what local law enforcement is for.

Oh, right. I misread the Federal Bureau of Imagination as Investigation. Doh!

It's the FBI's job to do a background check. Which they did. And guess what? That background check found zero criminal record.

A background check is an investigation. No criminal record? No one ever said he had a criminal record as Ford never reported it. Nor did Ramirez. Most victims of that kind of assault never do. I never reported the 3 men who exposed themselves* to me or the guy who attempted to get into my car and gave me a black eye.


Correction: My two girlfriends who were with me and I did tell our parents and a cop did talk to us. But we couldn't identify him and nothing came of it.

Now someone is asking the FBI to investigate a crime she hasn't even asked her actual police department with actual jurisdiction to investigate. And somehow this is supposed to reflect badly on Kavanaugh.

So? She doesn't want to press criminal charges. Who do you think is going to get more info? Local police or the FBI?

 

[luchog]

I'm aware of the statistic. However, the statistic doesn't mean you get a free do-over thirty years later.

Especially do-overs with strategically impeccable partisan timing.

When is Ford going to press charges against Kavanaugh for sexual assault?

That's what stepping forward in spite of the risk means to me.

Want to take a guess about how many rapes reported to police never make it to court, and how many are never even investigated?

50% of rapes reported to police are never investigated, 75% never get to court. Want to take a guess why it most likely wouldn't do any good to report this one now?

 

[Stacyhs]

The more I think about it, the more I think these allegations aren't about Kavanaugh, they're about Trump and the GOP.

If the allegations were about Kavanaugh, his accusers would have gone to the police long since. Ford wouldn't just have written a letter to Congress, she would have written a letter to every employer he ever applied to work for.

Though, can you imagine?

To whom it may concern,

You don't know me, but I'm pretty sure I knew Brett Kavanaugh in high school. In fact, I'm pretty sure we both got drunk at a high school party and he sexually assaulted me. It didn't get very far before he gave up, but I was really scared at the time.

I have decided not to press charges - actually, I haven't even gone to the police. However, I am hopeful that you will take this information into account when considering whether to give Kavanaugh a judgeship.

Probably,

Christine Ford

P.S. Please understand that I wish to keep my name out of this matter.​

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