Cont: Brilliant Light Power Going To Market - Free Energy Generator Part 3

[AlaskaBushPilot]

Again, you have the patience of a toddler.

Blame the victim, lol.

Endless declarations, decades, of free power just around the corner... and then blaming people for being impatient.

 

[jrhowell]

False. Mills has had reactors going for months, whether it was heat produced by the nickel tube cells in the mid 1990s or the gas/plasma cells around 2000 or the CIHT cells that produced electricity directly around the 2012 timeframe. But he was not successful in raising the power density of these devices to be marketable, although he was confident he could at the time. Why was he confident? Because he is incredibly good at solving problems. But some problems were beyond even his reach.

He stabilized the open SunCell at low power months ago. He achieved the closed SunCell perhaps two weeks ago and now he is working on stabilizing that.

All untrue.

Despite Mills' claims that all of those devices function by creating hydrinos there is no compelling evidence of that being true.

The older devices produced a tiny amount of excess energy over a long period of time. The new devices produce a tiny amount of excess energy in a quick burst. In both cases the results are insignificant enough to be explained by unaccounted-for chemical processes (such as oxidation) and/or measurement errors. There is no compelling evidence of a significant excess of energy that would require new physics to explain.

Mills has admitted he has taken some wrong turns in his energy research.

Can you provide citations? As I see it he has done his best to scrub all of his past mistakes from the public record.

 

[Dave Rogers]

Why was he confident? Because he is incredibly good at solving problems.

So good, in fact, that in no more than about three decades he's very close to solving his first one.

Dave

 

[Dancing David]

Let me 'slip up' again and call Mills the most impressive man in science since, who? Maxwell was a great theoretician, but not an inventor. Edison was a great inventor but not a theoretician. Mills is both, originating theory and engaging in both pure and applied research that will rock the world.

You strangle left out all the people like Enrico Fermi, Nick Holonyak and John Bardeen...

When Mills shares his success then you can make the claim

 

[Hans]

Markie still trying to keep the idea that Mills' ideas are a possibility alive.......

Same old false claims but strangely enough nothing ever comes of anything Mills says or says he has that works - nothing.

Still waiting

WHEN markie WHEN?

 

[Blue Mountain]

It would be instructive to see the electrical or gas bills for the building where Mills is doing his research, depending on how it's heated. If he has had sustained reactions running for months, it could show up as a reduction in heating costs.

 

[Darat]

It would be instructive to see the electrical or gas bills for the building where Mills is doing his research, depending on how it's heated. If he has had sustained reactions running for months, it could show up as a reduction in heating costs.

You are making the mistake that most of us make, sustained reactions does not in Mills use mean they have kept any power generation reactions going, it simple means he had a reaction that could go on *if* xxxx The xxxx being whatever "just one more problem to solve" he is using this week.

 

[wollery]

Does anyone remember the date that Markie set for ceasing to believe?

 

[Mike!]

Does anyone remember the date that Markie set for ceasing to believe?

I'm sure it's fully documented someplace up thread...

 

[W.D.Clinger]

Let me 'slip up' again and call Mills the most impressive man in science since, who? Maxwell was a great theoretician, but not an inventor. Edison was a great inventor but not a theoretician. Mills is both, originating theory and engaging in both pure and applied research that will rock the world.

How cute.

James Clerk Maxwell died in 1879, and Edison's reputation mostly rests on work done in 1876-1886. I hadn't realized the twentieth century had been so bereft of scientific and technological progress.

When I was in graduate school, I took two courses from a guy who shared an ACM Turing Award for inventing the concept of nondeterministic finite automata, which kicked off a line of theoretical research that led to what is now regarded as the most important open problem in computer science. Nondeterministic finite automata are also a key technology used by just about every practical application of regular expressions.

That guy went on to do many other things of great theoretical and practical importance, such as inventing a primality test that helped to make public-key cryptography into a practical technology and inventing an algorithm for string search that's used by Google and other search engines.

Truth be told, whenever I go to work I walk past the offices of more than a dozen people whose inventions and theoretical contributions are indisputable and acknowledged by everyone working in their areas.

To find someone who believes Mills has made any meaningful contributions in "both pure and applied research", let alone contributions so magnificent as to make Mills the "most impressive man in science" since the nineteenth century, we have to visit this thread and read markie's encomia.

 

[jrhowell]

Does anyone remember the date that Markie set for ceasing to believe?

The original post from Feb 26, 2017:

If there no satisfactorily proven, working prototype in 48 months, I promise to come back and eat humble pie before you, without a fork. My Google Calendar for Friday, February 26th 2021 now has an entry.

And revised on Feb 27, 2017:

OK, yes four years is too far out. It's just I'm 'skeptical' of a closed loop prototype released so soon. (Note: this is *not* a commercial device.)
I'll take a chance on it for two years from yesterday.

The entry on Tuesday, Feb 26 2019 of my Google Calendar reads:

"Visit International Skeptics Forum and Eat Humble Pie if prototype SunCell is not proven to work."

And a follow up on May 26, 1018:

February 26 2019 is still on my calendar as the date by which Mills will have demonstrated a closed Suncell prototype showing excess energy generation for a reasonable amount of time. Given the substantive direction changes in the design I'm not as confident as before that my timeline will be met. But in the end it will be worth it.

Just over five months to go.

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

But, did Markie give a reasonable definition of "proven to work" though? I'm under the impression he believes the SunCell is working now and has been for years. They're just "refining" it.

markie: Is the SunCell proven to work now?

 

[Darat]

But, did Markie give a reasonable definition of "proven to work" though? I'm under the impression he believes the SunCell is working now and has been for years. They're just "refining" it.

markie: Is the SunCell proven to work now?

It's the "a reasonable amount of time" that I'd be interested in quantifying... For Mills millisecond runs are a success!

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

I wonder how long before this gets retconned into "continuous only means for a single second", like the other times Mills has claimed a continuous reaction.

Continuous as contrasted to batch. The closed SunCells prior had a set amount of hydrogen which was consumed and the reaction stopped, in other words a batch run.

7 minutes.

 

[jrhowell]

But, did Markie give a reasonable definition of "proven to work" though?

The same question was asked at the time and the answer given was:

Read the context - closed loop. No connection to the grid. That should be good enough for you.

I don't think that is completely adequate since it does not rule out hidden internal power sources, but probably good enough since I don't think there is any chance of BLP showing off a "self runner" of any sort in the next five months.

(At this point markie probably wishes that he had stuck with his original four year estimate.)

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

I don't think that is completely adequate since it does not rule out hidden internal power sources, but probably good enough I don't think there is any chance of BLP showing off a "self runner" of any sort in the next five months.

I agree that's inadequate for a different reason: Markie doesn't know what "independent" means. He considers press releases from BLP to be true facts.

 

[LTC8K6]

"Mills will have demonstrated a closed Suncell prototype showing excess energy generation for a reasonable amount of time."

Markie can (will) simply take the word of Mills and his paid validators, and claim victory.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

It is interesting that you have written off his medical invention ideas, when they could very well still be taken up by interested parties and further developed.

Let's say I'm interested. How would I go about replicating the research he's already done? Where is it published?

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Of course, markie will not start to disbelieve in February, much less abandon belief entirely. Were that likely he'd already be showing doubts.

He will continue to believe just as passionately, and will continue to make excuses for Mills.

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

Let's say I'm interested. How would I go about replicating the research he's already done? Where is it published?

It's actually a true fact that Mills has a legitimate paper published in Nature that actually describes true facts. It's a paper towards a technique for getting drugs past cell barriers. What Mills claims it can do goes well beyond established facts.

It's reasonable to assume Mills could have had a legitimate career in that field.