Atheists destroy churches, attack the faithful

The Atheist said:
Nah, you need to think like a Messiah - WWJD

Just put them to the sword.



No problem there - someone thought up those very sensible policies.

From the atheist, religion-destroying regimes of Mao & Stalin, atheists think these things through. Religion is cancer and needs to be excised. Burn churches, kill priests, force conversion upon the faithful.

Who but an atheist would have perfected the suicide vest for warfare?

Good grief, you're typing like you haven't seen The Atheists' Guide to Violent Suppression of Religion yet? PM your address and I'll send you a copy. I thought christians knew about that.

It's a damned good read, although I'm a bit peeved that only two generations of christian should be killed, according to the book. I've been agitating for equality with the bible and seeking a change to at least three generations, as in Numbers 14:18.

I think it's pretty pathetic to allow christians to overshadow atheists in killing families.
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Well,if need any more proof of trolldom...
 
When you can cite atheist literature that recommends rape, murder and slavery and praises those who practice those activities please let us know.
 
BStrong said:
When you can cite atheist literature that recommends rape, murder and slavery and praises those who practice those activities please let us know.
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You want that in Russian, Chinese or what? The League of the Militant Godless has some next level stuff and the Soviet and Chinese engaged in wholesale rape, murder and slavery within the last century, didn’t just write about it.

Say, any comments about the latest pogrom or just gonna make “clever” comments that don’t work out so well?
 
The Big Dog said:
You want that in Russian, Chinese or what? The League of the Militant Godless has some next level stuff and the Soviet and Chinese engaged in wholesale rape, murder and slavery within the last century, didn’t just write about it.

Say, any comments about the latest pogrom or just gonna make “clever” comments that don’t work out so well?
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Is your point "atheists bad, religious good" or "all of them bad"? Did the Soviets and Chinese blame "God" for their acts?
 
sylvan8798 said:
Is your point "atheists bad, religious good" or "all of them bad"? Did the Soviets and Chinese blame "God" for their acts?
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I was discussing the latest pogroms against religious people, this time in China.

The soviets and the Chinese attacked people and institutions that believe in God (and other religious folks as well!). Exactly what about these basic facts are you not following?
 
The Atheist said:
From the atheist, religion-destroying regimes of Mao & Stalin, atheists think these things through. Religion is cancer and needs to be excised. Burn churches, kill priests, force conversion upon the faithful.
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Yes, indeed. That's what has been happening in Tibet over the last half century. This is from a BBC article from 1999:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/monitoring/253345.stm

China announces "civilizing" atheism drive in Tibet

The Chinese Communist Party has launched a three-year drive to promote atheism in the Buddhist region of Tibet, saying it is the key to economic progress and a weapon against separatism as typified by the exiled Tibetan leader, the Dalai Lama.

The move comes amid fresh foreign reports of religious persecution in the region, which was invaded by China in 1950...

"They pledged to... promptly draw up specific plans and measures for carrying out the propaganda drive in the next three years and to submit the plans and measures to the regional party committee's propaganda department before the end of January," it said.

"They also pledged to make protracted and relentless efforts to continuously enhance the quality of propaganda on atheism."​

Another article, this time from Times of India, in January this year:
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...sign-atheism-pledges/articleshow/62639270.cms

China’s Muslim Communists made to sign atheism pledges

BEIJING: China’s Communist Party is getting Muslim members of the party to sign documents pledging their commitment to atheism and renouncing religious leanings. The pledge-signing ceremonies “reflect their devotion to the pursuit of Marxist purity"...

This is among a series of moves by the party to counter the rising interest in spiritualism in a country which has an atheist constitution to which the ruling Communist Party is committed.​

Just remember, people: like atheism, no atrocities have been done in the name of theism. "Theism" just means "belief in one or more gods". That's all!
 
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The Big Dog said:
Well that is two votes for thinking "think that this is characteristic of atheism rather than an activity of the totalitarian government of China is even more appalling" is worse than interning a million Muslims and destroying churches and forced conversions.

I did not even think there would be one, but priorities, huh folks.

Although going full Godwin in response to an article about putting religious people in internment camps, also more than a bit of surprise.

The contention that forced conversions giving up a faith by a Officially Atheist country is not about Atheism is the single most absurd thing I have seen in a long while.
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Right, because when your argument has been so thoroughly discredited, the only thing left is to fixate on the most irrelevant detail.
 
arthwollipot said:
Right, because when your argument has been so thoroughly discredited, the only thing left is to fixate on the most irrelevant detail.
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Looks at my post...

Did you mean to quote that post? I mean there is nothing irrelevant in that post at all. Are you referring to your utterly absurd statement that you were more appalled by my comment than the actual persecution of religious in China and the detention of 1 million people?

Because if you think that thoroughly discredited anything I have written, I am going to have to go right ahead and disagree.

I get that you firmly believe that the attacks on religious in China has nothing to do with atheism, but.... well just take a long hard look at that aentence and maybe the scales will fall as they did for St Paul on the road to Damascus.
 
The Big Dog said:
I get that you firmly believe that the attacks on religious in China has nothing to do with atheism, but.... well just take a long hard look at that aentence and maybe the scales will fall as they did for St Paul on the road to Damascus.
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What is utterly absurd is your insistence that atheism is the cause of the persecution rather than politics, as is clearly and obviously the case, and as it has been demonstrated to you any number of times. Everything else is trivial.

I notice that you completely didn't bother to respond to my showing you how wildly innacurate your use of the word "sinicize" was and how it referred to political and cultural imperialism rather than religious persecution. Care to make a response to that? Or would you rather continue to focus on the trivialities rather than get to the bottom of what is actually causing these people to be persecuted?
 
abaddon said:
Odd isn't it. God is powerless against the Chinese government. Almost as though he/she/it/housecat doesn't exist at all.
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smartcooky said:
This is a difficult question.

Notice how TBD dodges difficult questions?
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Well you see God shows how clever and powerful he, (has to be a "he" of course), is by managing to remain undetected. If he did stuff then we could say a-ha, there he is.

The Big Dogs deft avoidance of difficult questions is well noted by many here. Glad I could help out with this one.:)
 
arthwollipot said:
What is utterly absurd is your insistence that atheism is the cause of the persecution rather than politics, as is clearly and obviously the case, and as it has been demonstrated to you any number of times. Everything else is trivial.

I notice that you completely didn't bother to respond to my showing you how wildly innacurate your use of the word "sinicize" was and how it referred to political and cultural imperialism rather than religious persecution. Care to make a response to that? Or would you rather continue to focus on the trivialities rather than get to the bottom of what is actually causing these people to be persecuted?
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What is causing religious people to be persecuted by the Official Atheist state? Religion of course. I did respond to your comment about sinicize of course, shall I quote the article again?

No, I will go one better!

“Xi said that the key to the CCP’s policy on religious affairs is “the way of guidance,” which should be “effective, powerful, and proactive.” Chinese youth in particular, Xi said, must be guided to “believe in science, study science, spread science, and to have a correct worldview.” As for CCP members, they “should be firm Marxist atheists and must never find their values and beliefs in any religion,” Xi added.”

https://thediplomat.com/2017/10/chinese-communist-party-vows-to-sinicize-religions-in-china/

Firm Marxist atheists

Golly folks, I wonder what Sinicize means in the context of the pogrom against Religious in China. Pro tip: atheism.
 
The Big Dog said:
I was discussing the latest pogroms against religious people, this time in China.

The soviets and the Chinese attacked people and institutions that believe in God (and other religious folks as well!). Exactly what about these basic facts are you not following?
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What I’m “following” is your refusal to respond to anyone else’s points while running about like a 4-year-old with your fingers in your ears yelling “la, la, la, la, LA, I can’t hear you.”
 
sylvan8798 said:
Is your point "atheists bad, religious good" or "all of them bad"? Did the Soviets and Chinese blame "God" for their acts?
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sylvan8798 said:
What I’m “following” is your refusal to respond to anyone else’s points while running about like a 4-year-old with your fingers in your ears yelling “la, la, la, la, LA, I can’t hear you.”
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Oh dear, was “did the soviets and Chinese blame ‘god’ for their acts” a point?

No they did not.

Good “point.”
 
Dr. Keith said:
Well, since they both seem to think Xi is great I would be against both of them. But that's just me.

That, and I couldn't figure out a decent joke with a "That's what Xi said!" punch line.
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D'oh! I like yours better.

How about...

"I've got the biggest 'rocket' in the world!"

"That's what Xi said!"
 
The Big Dog said:
What is causing religious people to be persecuted by the Official Atheist state? Religion of course. I did respond to your comment about sinicize of course, shall I quote the article again?

No, I will go one better!

“Xi said that the key to the CCP’s policy on religious affairs is “the way of guidance,” which should be “effective, powerful, and proactive.” Chinese youth in particular, Xi said, must be guided to “believe in science, study science, spread science, and to have a correct worldview.” As for CCP members, they “should be firm Marxist atheists and must never find their values and beliefs in any religion,” Xi added.”

https://thediplomat.com/2017/10/chinese-communist-party-vows-to-sinicize-religions-in-china/

Firm Marxist atheists

Golly folks, I wonder what Sinicize means in the context of the pogrom against Religious in China. Pro tip: atheism. CHINESE CULTURE (Pro tip: it's in the name)
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Stop whipping yourself. It isn't good for you, or us to watch.
 
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The Big Dog said:
What is causing religious people to be persecuted by the Official Atheist state? Religion of course. I did respond to your comment about sinicize of course, shall I quote the article again?
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Yup. Utterly predictable response. Atheism really is the boogeyman to you, isn't it? Why do you feel so threatened by it?
 
The Big Dog said:
Who said that?

That being said, I am certain that all who support it are atheist however.
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Actually, I suspect that most who support it follow a different religion. Like the sino-catholics or han Buddhists.

Nothing like religions to suppress their rivals.

After all, while communist states might be officially atheist, the vast majority of people still are religious, and if you look at the resurgence of the orthodox church in Russia this included most people in power at the time.

Imperial/communist China has a long history of suppressing any from of potential secondary power structure that might lead to independent parts of the country, so this, imo reprehensible act, has nothing to do with actual atheism, and everything to do with a totalitarian regime acting as normal.
 
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