Trump and NFL boycott

The Big Dog said:
TBD: "Oops, I meant laying it out in detail."

Other posters: "Yes, that was a complex thought. I should have laid it out a bit more carefully so that it would be easier to follow. You see i was rendering an homage to the great Welsh poet Sir Tjhbfdokjhdskjhb's Epic Work "laying the fields of arantha [600 words deleted here]"
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Lazy. :)
 
The Big Dog said:
Well, Nike had him signed up since 2011, and did not use him since 2016.

So, make sure y'all run out and buy Nike stuff, so courageous.
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I won't be buying any Nike stuff and I won't be watching any NFL games. I suggest you do the same.
 
According to Scott Galloway a professor at NYU's school of business the decision to feature Kapernick in their Just Do it campaign was a stroke of genius. He said it was a calculated risk but the numbers support the move.

'Nike did the math, figuring about 60 percent of its full-year revenue is generated outside North America and "no one overseas thinks America is handling race issues well," Galloway said, adding "two-thirds of customers under the age of 40 tend to bias progressive" and they're the prime users of Nike products.

Nike's brand exposure on TV, radio, online and social media since first announcing the Kaepernick-led campaign is worth $163.5 million, according to Apex Marketing

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/09/06...s-the-gangster-genius-brand-move-of-2018.html
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acbytesla said:
Galloway said, adding "two-thirds of customers under the age of 40 tend to bias progressive" and they're the prime users of Nike products.
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And yet...

theprestige said:
2. No Boost Among Key Demos: Among younger generations, Nike users, African Americans, and other key demographics, Nike’s favorability declined rather than improved.
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theprestige said:
And yet...
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Do you think that poll is more informative then their market research? Any idea of the sampling? I'm betting with my own money, about $16,000 that Nike knows exactly what they are doing. Nike has good financials. The stock dropped 3 percent yesterday and is up a half a point today. My guess is it will be back where it was in a couple of weeks maybe sooner.

I've seen the ad. There is NOTHING controversial about it other than it features Kapernick. It also features the one handed Seahawk Shaqueem Griffin, a wrestler without legs, Serena Williams and LeBron James in front of the school he donated money to.

I think it's more than reasonable to question the risk Nike is taking. But their market is not limited to the US. It's reasonable to conclude that 80 percent of the market won't be impressed or discouraged.

I don't really like Nike. Uncle Phil has been a pain in the ass to my Huskies. But I tip my cap to him, the man understands marketing
 
As I stand here watching the game, too excited to sit down, how many football games do you think Trump has watched from start to finish?
 
Gotta say, I love how irrationally upset conservatives are getting over something that is totally irrelevant. Whether people stand sit kneel, lie down, do star jumps, or pick their noses during a country's anthem is the most meaningless argument there has been since the Lilliputians went to war over which end of the soft boiled egg to chop off.

Watching them burn their clothing and wail on twitter is hilarious.

Sadly I can't say I am surprised though, it's just another thing in a very long list of things where Conservatives get upset and have tissy fits over the actions of other people that have exactly zero impact on their own lives.

It really does often come down to:

Liberal - I want to have the right to do whatever I want to do, without being insulted, or having Corporations ride roughshod over me.

Conservative - I want to have the right to tell everyone else what to do, insult anyone I want to, and allow Corporations to do whatever they like too.
 
PhantomWolf said:
Gotta say, I love how irrationally upset conservatives are getting over something that is totally irrelevant. Whether people stand sit kneel, lie down, do star jumps, or pick their noses during a country's anthem is the most meaningless argument there has been since the Lilliputians went to war over which end of the soft boiled egg to chop off.

Watching them burn their clothing and wail on twitter is hilarious.

Sadly I can't say I am surprised though, it's just another thing in a very long list of things where Conservatives get upset and have tissy fits over the actions of other people that have exactly zero impact on their own lives.

It really does often come down to:

Liberal - I want to have the right to do whatever I want to do, without being insulted, or having Corporations ride roughshod over me.

Conservative - I want to have the right to tell everyone else what to do, insult anyone I want to, and allow Corporations to do whatever they like too.
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Yeah, them liberals have been real hands off types, say, that guy looks like one of them Nazis, it is BIKE LOCK TIME! CLUNK!

Now what was I saying?

Right, the NFL should definitely provide a forum for Kap to refer to cops as pigs.
 
acbytesla said:
According to Scott Galloway a professor at NYU's school of business the decision to feature Kapernick in their Just Do it campaign was a stroke of genius. He said it was a calculated risk but the numbers support the move.
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Oh, but that can't be. theprestige came up with a Morning Consult poll that showed that Americans polled in the heat of the argument (who may or may not have ever bought anything from Nike) have a suspiciously low opinion of Nike. (Suspiciously because the drop is so precipitous that you have to wonder if the only people who responded to the ON LINE POLL were perhaps not an actual sampling of anything other than the demographic that's signed up for Morning Consult's On Line Polling.)

Are you more or less likely to watch an NFL game as a result of Nike's ad? 24% said less likely??!! Seems that the respondents were politically motivated.
 
Foolmewunz said:
Oh, but that can't be. theprestige came up with a Morning Consult poll that showed that Americans polled in the heat of the argument (who may or may not have ever bought anything from Nike) have a suspiciously low opinion of Nike. (Suspiciously because the drop is so precipitous that you have to wonder if the only people who responded to the ON LINE POLL were perhaps not an actual sampling of anything other than the demographic that's signed up for Morning Consult's On Line Polling.)

Are you more or less likely to watch an NFL game as a result of Nike's ad? 24% said less likely??!! Seems that the respondents were politically motivated.
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I bet on Nike as soon as I heard that their stock dropped more than 3 percent. Nike sells tennis shoes for as much as $200 a pair that are worth maybe $30 and they have been doing it for 40 years. Anyone that can do that knows who their customers are and how to appeal to them. I figure the stock will bounce back within a couple of weeks and maybe get a 3 point bump on top of that. And I'll have made a thousand dollars and I'll buy something else.

They are getting hundreds of millions of dollars in free media exposure. People with no opinion are watching the ad. 2 million views on YouTube that Nike didn't pay for unlike the ad on the game. People are talking about it on the View and just about every talk show. And the only thing controversial about the ad is that Kaepernick is in it.
 
It's a bit surprising to see Nike and the NFL join Kaepernick and the drug gangs against the American Flag, fallen heroes and Vets, law enforcement, and the safety of our citizens. I'll only be watching the Cowboys this year, and I've been a big NFL fan for a long time. That way I can root against whatever team of kneelers they are playing.
 
BrooklynBaby said:
It's a bit surprising to see Nike and the NFL join Kaepernick and the drug gangs against the American Flag, fallen heroes and Vets, law enforcement, and the safety of our citizens. I'll only be watching the Cowboys this year, and I've been a big NFL fan for a long time. That way I can root against whatever team of kneelers they are playing.
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Good thing kneeling doesn't actually say anything about the flag, fallen heroes, vets. It is an appeal to improving the safety of citizens.
 
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