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Intelligent Design

WTF is that?

Ack! The picture I linked to somehow disappeared.

I'll try again with a URL:
http://www.freewebs.com/jurifoxgirl13/juri11.jpg

Gah!

Third time, a different pic, not quite the insane randomness I was going for but I hope it works:
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c4ts,
How DARE you show a pic of Glorious Leader!?

I'm telling you, Iacchus is a Lovecraftian character. He has dreams, can't seperate reality from fiction. He REALLY should run for office.

Um...I'm not quite sure where that last one came from.
 
c4ts,
How DARE you show a pic of Glorious Leader!?

I'm telling you, Iacchus is a Lovecraftian character. He has dreams, can't seperate reality from fiction. He REALLY should run for office.

Um...I'm not quite sure where that last one came from.

If Iacchus can bring back an Elder Thing statue a suntan from another planet from his dream quests, I might reconsider.
 
I think you may be experiencing a problem with reality. Iacchus, can you give me an example of something that is not real?
I am conscious in both my dream state and my waking state. But hey, at least I'm not the solipsist in my dreams. ;)
 
If Iacchus can bring back an Elder Thing statue a suntan from another planet from his dream quests, I might reconsider.
Of course that is impossible. You are limited as to what sorts of things can be transferred between dimensions. Spirits and souls are fine. Inanimate objects of the kind you describe cannot transcend.






That's right








They are statues of limitation.
 
Of course that is impossible. You are limited as to what sorts of things can be transferred between dimensions. Spirits and souls are fine. Inanimate objects of the kind you describe cannot transcend.
Am not so sure about that, since spirits live in their own houses, drive cars, go to schools, and all sorts of things. In fact it's very much like the world we live in currently, except that eveything exists in a higher state of perfection.
 
I am conscious in both my dream state and my waking state. But hey, at least I'm not the solipsist in my dreams. ;)

Let's try that again. I'll make the example even easier for you.

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His name is Baron Von Ascii and he lives in a balloon. Is he a real person, yes or no?
 
Am not so sure about that, since spirits live in their own houses, drive cars, go to schools, and all sorts of things. In fact it's very much like the world we live in currently, except that eveything exists in a higher state of perfection.

So you've been there before?
 
You realize, of course, that what you have just written is gibberish. Admittedly, much of religion is gibberish, but this is particularly rambling gibberish.

What kind of energy? How does the physical interact with the non-physical? What exactly is it that is "fluxing"? You need to give us solid answers to these questions if you expect to be understood.
So, what would you call that part of you which is conscious in your dreams? Thus far, you have been unable to demonstrate any difference between that and all the rest of the electro-chemical "figments" in your mind.

No, it is not me. It is a character created by my mind. I am real and behave like a real person. They are imaginary and behave like imaginary persons/creatures/items. That is what I conclude. I suspect most people would conclude something similar. You seem to be one of the few here who concludes that what you experience in your dreams is real.
Yes, it is very real to that part of me which experieces it. Which, is the same part of me that is here to tell you about what it experiences in the waking state.

I am having difficulty making sense out of your gibberish. I don't have any difficulty separating dreams from reality.

I know what imagination is so I am not in any way trying to dismiss it. You apparently do not understand that imagination is not real.
And "you," are nothing more than an electro-chemical discharge ... and nothing more than what you imagine yourself to be.
 
So, Iacchus, you admit to being unable to tell the difference between being awake and being asleep? Well, that certainly says a lot.
 
So, what would you call that part of you which is conscious in your dreams?
I'm not a neurologist, so I can't tell you what part of the brain is active during dreams, but obviously some parts are. But not all. The thing that we describe as "consciousness" has several levels, from highly alert to deeply asleep. Dream phase is at the low end, but not the lowest end. Did you know that you don't even remember the vast majority of your dreams? They don't "record" unless you are awake enough to realize you are dreaming. Sort of like a ROM set to random play. If you "accidentally" wake up, the recording device becomes active.

I'm probably incorrect with some of these statements, not being well versed in the field, but I think I can say with some degree of certainty that my brain is not accessing other dimensions.

Thus far, you have been unable to demonstrate any difference between that and all the rest of the electro-chemical "figments" in your mind.
The "me" is lying in bed creating the characters with loosely structured imagination. Any characters I may be playing are also imaginary.

Do you ever have fantasies, Iacchus? In most peoples' fantasies, often there is a character that the fantasizer is playing,though he may be handsomer, smarter or better hung than the person doing the fantasizing. There are also others, like the gorgeous woman the character is making love to. Are either of those people real? No. Who is controlling what they do and say? The fantasizer.

Dreams are like this, just less structured.

Yes, it is very real to that part of me which experieces it. Which, is the same part of me that is here to tell you about what it experiences in the waking state.
It is no more real that the things that happen to you in your fantasies, regardless of how vivid. If you are shot in a dream, you do not wake to find a bullet hole in you. Only rarely does your body even play out the actions in your dreams. Then you have to change the sheets.

And "you," are nothing more than an electro-chemical discharge ... and nothing more than what you imagine yourself to be.
There are many parts of "me". (I know because I have to have some parts of me worked on from time to time.) My imagination is only one of the many many parts.
 
Join the club. ;)

Actually, Iacchus, I have a very easy time seperating reality from fiction. I fully understand that my dreams are random (oh no, not THAT word again) firing of neurons that occur while I sleep. In my younger days, I attributed meaning to them, then I realized that they have no meaning. Jung was wrong, ok?
 
Am not so sure about that, since spirits live in their own houses, drive cars, go to schools, and all sorts of things. In fact it's very much like the world we live in currently, except that eveything exists in a higher state of perfection.

Mortgage payments in the afterlife?

Do I still have to pay spirit children to mow my perfect ethereal lawn?

I think you've watched one too many Tim Burton movies.
 

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