Today's Mass Shooting

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*Swirls the glass... sniffs... tastes* Hmmmm poisoning the well opener.... hints of "I'm not saying..." and a nice finish of incredulity.

A fine vintage.
 
PhantomWolf said:
Why would an LA gang target gamers in Florida? Makes no sense, especially compared to the currently reported motive, that he was a gamer that had lost in a previous round.

Total speculation, but I wouldn't be suprised to find out his social media was filled with Gamergate nonsense.
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PhantomWolf said:
You are still adding in your imaginings instead of just taking what I wrote as exactly what is says. Sorry but your post is a example of how to fail reading comprehension 101.

Here's a hint if you still are having troubles. Where in my post did I say anything about Gamergate having anything to do with the motive of the shooting? I didn't? By gosh, so I didn't. See you added that in all by yourself.

In future, try and take people according to what they actually say, and not what you want to believe them to have said.
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You posted an incomprehensible statement.

The only reading comprehension failure on ThatGuy's part was trying to comprehend a statement that cannot be comprehended. The comment, as noted, was "total speculation". It was not attached to facts, evidence, or reasoning. Attempting to make sense of it was a mistake.



In general, there has been a lot of total speculation in this thread. People have been leaping to apply whatever stereotypes they can to this situation, about guns, gun owners, "toxic masculinity" * and video gamers. None of it makes much sense, because none of it is connected to any actual facts.

There are widespread reports that the shooter was a participant in the tournament. I have read both that he lost in a previous round, and that he was disqualified in a previous round. That's not a lot to go on. It doesn't give me any reason to speculate about Gamergate or anything else, but since it's just speculation, I suppose we might as well entertain other possibilities. Maybe he had car problems when he tried to leave after being eliminated from the tournament, and the despair just got too much for him?


*I can't remember if anyone in the thread actually mentioned toxic masculinity, or if that was just in news articles. Either way it was total speculation, and in my opinion rather stupid total speculation.
 
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JoeMorgue said:
*Swirls the glass... sniffs... tastes* Hmmmm poisoning the well opener.... hints of "I'm not saying..." and a nice finish of incredulity.

A fine vintage.
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How do you poison the well against someone that just shoot up a bunch of people? Seems that they did that fine by themselves.
 
PhantomWolf said:
How do you poison the well against someone that just shoot up a bunch of people? Seems that they did that fine by themselves.
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The shooter is the poison. Whatever social-political topics people have a chip on their shoulder about that there is zero evidence had anything to do with this event is the well.
 
Arcade22 said:
VIDEO GAMES! How many more innocent victims will this filth claim before someone does something?! President Trump must order an investigation into how best to ban this EVIL before it can destroy more American families!
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And not just regular video games like Postal or Hatred but a video game about American Football! The Madden series brings down the whole fabric of American society what with the kneeling and the passing of handeggs.
 
Meadmaker said:
You posted an incomprehensible statement. reasoning. Attempting to make sense of it was a mistake.
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No, it's not incomprehensible, it's just people seem to want to add things to it that were never stated nor suggested. The entire essence of the statement was that I would not be surprised he was a follower or active within the Gamergate stuff. If you don't understand why I suspect it, the ask, don't claim that it is incomprehensible or make stuff up.

So, Why? Because he appears to have been a gamer that had a lot of anger and a short fuse, and it is thus likely something like Gamergate would have appealed to him. That's it, it's not a veil jab at Gamergaters, nor a suggestion that Gamergate was somehow involved, or that he was motivated because of it. Just that from his actions, I'm speculating that he'd have gravitated to something as controversial as Gamergate.

There is a serious problem on this board with people reading into what others write instead of just reading what they write, and then when they get called out for making stuff up, or attacking strawmen, they whine about it

There are widespread reports that the shooter was a participant in the tournament. I have read both that he lost in a previous round, and that he was disqualified in a previous round. That's not a lot to go on.
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Yes, in fact in my post that started all this I clearly posted that the motive being reported was that he had lost in a previous round. But that was apparently far too obvious a clue, and so others had to ignore it and superimpose an imagined accusation of motive into the rest of my post.
 
JoeMorgue said:
The shooter is the poison. Whatever social-political topics people have a chip on their shoulder about that there is zero evidence had anything to do with this event is the well.
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Then congratulations, you too are reading way more into things that was ever stated and are creating strawmen to attack.
 
Whatever. "I'm not saying... I'm just saying" is laughably transparent even when people do it well.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Whatever. "I'm not saying... I'm just saying" is laughably transparent even when people do it well.
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You know sometimes people just mean what they say.

Here's a little test. If you're right and I have "a chip on [my] shoulder" about this "social-political topic" then there should be evidence for it, right? How about doing a search and see how many times I have posted on Gamergate and what I have said about it.

See that's where your pseudo-psychoanalysis fails you, if there is no chip on the shoulder about a social-political topic, then what becomes the point of any attempts to poison something that isn't worth poisoning?

You want there to be more, so you add more, there's not. Try some actual Skeptisim on it instead of calling it a bigfoot because you want it to be a bigfoot.
 
As far as GG goes - Possible, I guess, in that the first guy killed was apparently trueboy, who is black, while GG was based largely on the usual white guy grievance anti-SJW nonsense. Still, we're talking about sports games here - there's no chance, even in theory, of women somehow becoming prominent in Madden in the foreseeable future, so...I doubt it, at least as any sort of primary motivation.
 
I don't think anybody has suggested it was a motivation, unless it's something I haven't read, and I suppose what with this being the internet, someone is bound to have suggested it somewhere. But not here.
 
When I first saw this story, I naturally thought the video game involved would be "Doom" or "Half Life" or "Call of Duty" or one of the other "first person shooter" games.
But Madden Football.......................(which I play a lot).
 
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